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Scire 04-03-06 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
Relax JonZ, you've done a great job so far, you shouldn't have to worry about our suggestions too much and they aren't must do's!
I for one am not going to be all that dissapointed if it doesn't turn out completely accurate (whatever that may be)... anything is better than the old rec manual and yours looks awesome.

Totally agree! :up:

CWorth 04-03-06 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scirè
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
Relax JonZ, you've done a great job so far, you shouldn't have to worry about our suggestions too much and they aren't must do's!
I for one am not going to be all that dissapointed if it doesn't turn out completely accurate (whatever that may be)... anything is better than the old rec manual and yours looks awesome.

Totally agree! :up:

Make that two of us :up:

Jonz..just do what you think is best and ignore the rest.This is your mod and you have the right to make it how you want and not how they want.If they dont like it then they dont have to download it.

Let the guy do his work..if it is not 100% accurate..so what..its not the end of the world.

JonZ is trying to improve something in the game and all you guys can do is complain that "this or that is not correct" :nope:

LGN1 04-03-06 01:27 PM

Hi all,

I don't think anyone is complaining. JonZ is doing a great work! That is out of question!

I guess it is hard to answer what is historical correct. As JScones already mentioned, probably there were all kinds of names for the countries used. I think all choices are reasonable! So I would just release the version, YOU (JonZ) like the most. All are great!

Cheers, LGN1

Dutch 04-03-06 10:00 PM

I must say, Great Work! :up:

Its amazing the work you modders put into making this game what it is today, UBI should be giving you a portion of the profits :-j

But in all honesty please do keep up th good work, I wish I could help, unfortuantly I don't have the time or the resources or the know-how for that matter :nope:

The communty sure does take advantage of these modder's skills, I sure hope they know how appreciative we are. :up:

JonZ 04-04-06 12:29 AM

Sorry for beign meanful earlier, it wasn't in my intention at all.

But I really felt something has to be done... and I did something :)

The solution for the flags was simple:
just add a second flag for cross mod references.

So it mean that if a mod carry more accurate ship flag, there's chances that the recognition manual cover will have it.

Making the cover flags more multi-mod friendly. Ain't that great?

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9286/nations9mw.jpg

JonZ 04-04-06 12:33 AM

The only concern I have left are the names for Kriegsschiffe.


Some of you wanted me to change it to Reich but for some it doesn't make sense. I'm all for the historical accuracy but if it means more confusion for the german user, I will simply revert them into Kriegsschiffe. Also note that South Affrica, Canadian and australian still have Kriegsschiffe because no one requested me to change it to Reich...


What do you think?

Boris 04-04-06 01:37 AM

Kriegsschiffe means warships... so Australische Kriegsschiffe means Australian Warships. Replacing Kriegsschiffe by Reich would make no sense as Reich means empire. ie Deutsches Reich - German empire, Britisches reich - British empire

If you have any concerns you could remove Kreigsschiffe alltogether for consistency... and the length of the words
If you wanted to change them all to include Kriegsschiffe some would have to be really long... such as "Kriegsschiffe des Deutschen Reiches"
It looks fine the way it is as it makes sense and all... but if you want to use the simple names:
Südafrika
Australien
Kanada

JScones 04-04-06 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scirè
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
Relax JonZ, you've done a great job so far, you shouldn't have to worry about our suggestions too much and they aren't must do's!
I for one am not going to be all that dissapointed if it doesn't turn out completely accurate (whatever that may be)... anything is better than the old rec manual and yours looks awesome.

Totally agree! :up:

Ditto!

Martin1813 04-04-06 04:10 AM

:rock:

fantastic job, JonZ ! :up:

don't worry, critics are always a good thing. by the way, I see more advices than critics here ;)

Angrykirill 04-04-06 07:02 AM

Awesome job! Looks amazing! When is it ready to be downloaded? (or have I missed the link?)

JonZ 04-04-06 10:22 AM

Release is delayed to the next week end I'm affraid. I'm working on new features and documentations. This is more complex than it was previously announced.

The installation remain simple, but I've been working on 7 and maybe 8 additionnal assorted color skins. I added the possibility to remove the Swastika with a simple remove of semicolons with the notepad.

I am now working for an implementation of SH3 Commander, the date of the book will change over the years and possibly the skin too.

And... the testings :nope:

JonZ

Txema 04-04-06 11:59 AM

JonZ,

Excellent work !!! It looks great !!!

However I want to say that the Spanish flag is wrong.

The flag you are using is the one that is official nowadays.

You should use the flag that was official during the dictatorship of General Franco, specifically between 1938-1945.

You can check it here:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/es1938.html

Thanks for your excellent mods !!!


Txema

JonZ 04-04-06 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txema
JonZ,

Excellent work !!! It looks great !!!

However I want to say that the Spanish flag is wrong.

The flag you are using is the one that is official nowadays.

You should use the flag that was official during the dictatorship of General Franco, specifically between 1938-1945.

You can check it here:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/es1938.html

Thanks for your excellent mods !!!


Txema



I think my version is the correct one. I however cannot find accurate info about the use of the naval ensign:

http://flagspot.net/flags/es~1938.html

Sailor Steve 04-04-06 12:33 PM

I agree about the 'Kriegschiffe' listings. Unless you use 'Kriegshiffe' for every country's warships, it looks odd. Just my opinion, and everything else looks great.

Txema 04-04-06 12:35 PM

The version of the spanish flag you are using is the one that is official nowadays.

As you say the correct one is the flag you can see here:

http://flagspot.net/flags/es1938.html

The difference between both flags is in the Coat-of-Arms. The 1938-1945 flag includes the Eagle of St. John behind the shield, while the current flag (that you are using) features a crown as you can see here:

http://flagspot.net/flags/es.html

Do you agree with me?


Txema

JonZ 04-04-06 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txema
The version of the spanish flag you are using is the one that is official nowadays.

As you say the correct one is the flag you can see here:

http://flagspot.net/flags/es1938.html

The difference between both flags is in the Coat-of-Arms. The 1938-1945 flag includes the Eagle of St. John behind the shield, while the current flag (that you are using) features a crown as you can see here:

http://flagspot.net/flags/es.html

Do you agree with me?


Txema

If I follow your link, I also end up to this page:
http://flagspot.net/flags/es~.html

It specify that the ensign and jacks are the one with and without the emblem. Civil and war flags...

seems a bit contradictory :doh:

Anyway, I will just add the other version if it necessary...

Txema 04-04-06 01:01 PM

JonZ,

Thank you very much for your interest !!!

I DON´T think that adding the R N letters is a good idea. They were used only by the Naval Reserve. The Naval Reserve was made up of merchant ships which ocassionally transported goods or troops for the State or the Navy. While transporting them, they had to fly this ensign.... But this happened only occasionally....

I think you should use exactly this flag:

http://flagspot.net/flags/es1938.html

Including the Eagle of St. John behind the shield.

Is it possible to do it?


Txema

JonZ 04-04-06 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txema
JonZ,

Thank you very much for your interest !!!

I DON´T think that adding the R N letters is a good idea.

I edited my post too late ;)

coronas 04-04-06 01:38 PM

Spanish flag for that time:
http://217.127.34.207/banderae.htm
1939-1975[/img]

coronas 04-04-06 01:48 PM

Warships, flag with eagle and shield. A flag is enought. Thanks for the work. :up:


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