Thats pretty cool, I'm planning a trip there hopefully in the next few years :rock:.

Can't argue with the geographic misportrayal of the city in the movie, you are also definately correct, with Pearl Harbor being much much much worse. That is why I don't find it necesary to add Enemy at the Gates into the same top 10 list as Pearl Harbor :P

Not knowing any better, one of my friends (a real WW2 freak) rented the vhs when it first came out. All we had heard, was the hype about what a great movie it was supposed to be. The entire first tape was 100% CHICK FLICK! Had we known better, we would have discarded the first tape and just started with the pt2 tape. As it was, by the time we got to pt2 , we were both about to puke. I have seen worse movies, but I actually had chipped in on the rental of this garbage. To sum this up, it was my all time worst waste of money on a movie rental.

hey have you seen that rotten one with Mel Gibson trying to be a red neck in Vietnam.
Soo bad can't remember the name.

2 good ones tho based on real life

Audy Murphy "To hell and back"(played himself)

Gary Cooper "Sgt York"

Also remeber one with BOB Newhart where he is a clerk that ends up at the front.
He picks up the phone and pretends he is at the C.O.
talking to a bunch of people(is paul newman in this)

Hello Nagel,
concerning "Apocalypse now" you wrote :

" ... I do agree it's a brilliant work, but it's still leftist propaganda. just take that one scene where the can comes in playing Wagner, come on! Wagner for God's sake, and attack the "peaceful" village where the children are sitting down in school? We're portrayed as the invading horde. that movie is a blatent piece of antiwar propaganda. I do love the air cav scene, ... "

People don't die in wars, this is all (leftist) propaganda. Maybe they did not play Wagner, but in original camera footages of Vietnam they indeed had mounted loudspeakers, only thing is they mostly played Rock'n roll going in, not Wagner. Why not say it ? A village "proven" to be a vietcong one was mostly erased, collateral damage with civilians. Sh*t happens. How could a frightened 18-year old farmer boy from Idaho possibly decide what to do when they found a gun in a hut in the jungle. Chewing gums when igniting a hut with a Zippo lighter maybe is leftist propaganda, as well as Americans dying at all, i know. (dropping atom bombs over civilian targets including schoolchildren is also leftist propaganda). I do not discuss whether it was necessary to do that, but to call leftist propaganda anything presenting what really happened without showing the US flag every two minutes and having a marine say "Yessir!" - B.S.! Leftist propaganda is something else.
I do not think the film really makes sense in a way the original author really meant, because the book Coppola got the idea from is no military or "leftist" one, Coppoly only transferred the story from another location and time to the far east into a war. And even the hidden story behind within the film is not about war.
Greetings,
Catfish

Except, of course, that the bombs fall straight down out of the planes.

Please to see:

http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/

... and scroll down to the Pearl Harbor movie review.

Thanks, Catfish, you beat me to it. Some people (Nagel, that is) do have a ... shall we say... simple way of viewing the world. :roll:

Ahhh... I see politics has reared it's ugly head once again.

Now where did I put that thread lock key?

JCC

I could stand the lousy chick flick parts of Pearl Harbor, only because of Kate B, but the bombing of modern ships by zeros lost me totaly.

Eh.. Thanks for that, just killed 1 hour reading the whole page and all them movies. good read, but really, I must sleep now!!! :D

After 4 pages I think it's pretty safe to say that Pearl Harbor is considered to be the worst war movie of all time :D
:rotfl: And it really IS horrible... :hulk:

I think this was 'We Were Soldiers' ... agreed, pretty awful!

This is 'Hell is for Heroes' (with Steve McQueen, not Paul Newman), which also got mentioned in the 'Best War Movies' thread on this forum. Even if you don't like that scene with Bob Newhart (which I did), I seem to recall that the rest of the movie wasn't too bad, at any rate not a serious candidate for 'Worst War Movie of All Time' when you have turkeys like 'Pearl Harbor' contending for the title ;)

Agreed with most listed here, but especially U-571 and 'In enemy hands'.

I've seen more impressing stuff in a toilet...

" ... but especially U-571 and 'In enemy hands'.

I've seen more impressing stuff in a toilet... "

:rotfl: :rotfl: :lol:

Greetings,
Catfish

In Enemy Hands: whats up with the 1970's haircuts. Geeesh.