Thanks my friend :)

My skills reach limits very quickly sometimes, and it takes me numerous hours to try things for OM enhancement :oops:
Ie whole afternoon importing stuff from other mods, just to realize either it’s not good, either it brings lots of others problems...
That’s life :timeout:

Anyway, after all the periscopes :D, i’m currently enhancing types II.
The type IIC has a brand new turm (almost finished) from WAC5, and i’m quite satisfied with it. It’s night and day now :yeah:
After that i’ll work on type IIB and D...if i didn’t brake my PC in the mean time :haha:

All right, first type II done!

As usual, before/after sequence:

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...3-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...3-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...3-resultat.jpg

Pretty good :Kaleun_Cheers:

OMG!!
I thought the VIID was the harder to be re-worked, but just checked the IXC 1940...and what a bad surprise :timeout:
Incredible :o
He has 4 periscopes whose 2 are horizontals under water :doh: and textures are all messed up everywhere...

I think i’ll Have bad time to rebuild everything there...and probably restart from scratch :wah:

Next update should take more time than expected, sorry :k_confused:

Okay, i am done with the IXC 1940...
Had to import almost all from WAC. The rendering is just stunning!
I'm in love with this baby :)
Everything is now corrected, and no more visual glitches...with plenty eye candy :yep:

Before:

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...3-resultat.jpg

After:

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...3-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...3-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

Had to figure out plenty things, whose the hardest one was the ambiant occlusion...for my poor skills :oops: But result is not bad i think.

Love it so much, i might import others full subs...but it's huge work :D

Nicely done, young feller! :salute:

Fiifi
Looks stunning, :Kaleun_Applaud:I wonder if that will now sort out the problem with the missing winter garden in the IX in Flotilla 2?
Peter

Thanks both of you!

I’m not aware of the missing winter garden...have to say i don’t have time to test all U-Boats in career mode for the moment :oops:
I will count on you for this matter :yep:
But my guess is more a campaign file issue for flotilla 2 than a graphic problem...we will see later on what’s going on.

Importing whole subs is very time consuming, and my plans are to import first, and test after.
I’m just testing rendering for each sub with the war patrol mission actually.

I'm thinking that the wintergarden would be associated with the turms. Myself, I've not done enough noodling in OM, nor am I familiar enough with all of the Uboat variations, so which version are you referring to there THEBERBSTER, the IXC? Are there guns on the one you are referring to, but it's just an inappropriate flak decking configuration for the boat? I had always referred to "wintergarden" as the "porches", fore and aft, for the mounting of flak guns, but I know some refer specifically to the Type VII U-flak boat version as "wintergarden"... :salute:

2nd Flotilla at uboat dot net
https://uboat.net/flotillas/2flo.htm

Wow wow wow :Kaleun_Applaud:

I'm going to return to SH4.

I already noticed a type IX (maybe the IXB?) has second rear flak directly on deck, like the front deck gun...and no rear winter garden.
Maybe it’s the one Peter is referring to?

When i will come to this one for importation, i’ll See if it is normal or not.
Maybe it’s normal though...

OM has so many different turms and hulls, it’s driving me mad sometimes.
Not that easy to find out my way through all this!

From what I see on that uboat dot net site, the IX & IXb had the rear AA gun mounted on the deck, but I'm sure there were variations of the IXb that had other configurations - of course, maybe that's where the IXc and IXc40 & IXd "models" came from??... lol - Quite a bit like US subs in the Pacific, it probably depended upon the date you're looking at the boat, and who the commanding officer was, as to what its deck configuration was... :salute:

So it seems not that wrong... :03:

Second one is finished! :Kaleun_Cheers:

Here is the type IXB in 1944...and you can see he has a winter garden :03:

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...1-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...1-resultat.jpg

Now will start an other one :ping:

Hi Guys
IIRC the basic setup for flak guns was a 37mm deck mounted flak gun with 2 crew + 1 winter garden with a single or twin flak with 1 crew.
This could be upgraded to 2 winter gardens with single or twin flaks in each by removing the 37mm deck mount and 1 crew slot.
Picture shows only the 1 flak gun.

In SH4 this may be different to SH3.
https://i.postimg.cc/MXkTZN9J/captur...019-223045.jpg

The illustration shows 2 flak mounts in winter gardens.
My type IX has the 2 crew slots as seen in the picture below.
https://i.postimg.cc/L6rfh0JX/captur...019-222855.jpg


This pictures shows there is no provision for second flak gun.
It also does not state what type IX it is supposed to be.
https://i.postimg.cc/Yq5HVQsZ/SH4-Im...-47-59-266.jpg

Peter

Ok i see what you meant...

On your picture, it’s a basic IX (without any letter after, it’s a IX A)
The type IX A in OM has only one flak like your first picture.
What we can see, is that it’s doesn’t match the sub drawing of your second picture in the crew management...but the good thing is the flak slot correspond to what you get ingame (2 guys per flak gun)

So only problem is the drawing mismatching...to me, it seems to be a type IXB (if i recall well, the basic IXB has one flak upstairs and one flak on deck)

Right now, i dunno how to fix it, nor if there is any IX A drawing available...so best for the moment is to ignore the drawings in crew management tab :yep:

Thanks Peter for reporting this :up:

ÉDIT: if i knew where to find the drawing file within the tons of files, there is an easy fix i could do with photoshop...but i suspect type IXB share the same file with type IXA...so either one or other would have wrong drawing...

Fifi

Quote:

but the good thing is the flak slot correspond to what you get ingame (2 guys per flak gun)

That would be incorrect as each light flak gun only has 1 gunner.

Interesting Question! > Where does the problem lie?
2 crew slots is incorrect for 1 flak gun.
Why 2 crew slots, not 1?
You can see from the pictures that adding the second crew man to the flak gun makes no difference.
https://i.postimg.cc/13r0gj5D/captur...019-104248.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/pL3vFqGX/captur...019-104240.jpg

In this SH3 picture you can see 2 flak gunners for 2 winter gardens with a flak guns in each.

https://i.postimg.cc/vHZKhfCR/F7-Crew.jpg


In this picture you can see 3 flak gunners for 2 flak guns
1 winter garden with 1 gunner.
1 deck mounted 37mm flak gun requires 2 gunners
This was the standard layout AFAIK for a type IX.


https://i.postimg.cc/7YFVpzbQ/Crew.jpg

Peter

:hmmm:

In OM they (all ?) have 2 guys per flak gun...and often you see both guys at the flak station.
Now, it’s obvious your type IX doesn’t show the 2 guys...and probably some other types doesn’t need 2 guys either.
Dunno how Lurker worked that point.

This AA gun crew problem needs to be re-worked i think, maybe someone could solve it (thinking of FOTRSU team guys who were already involved) because i suck so much when it comes to this kind of files :wah:

Anyway it’s not a game breaker IMHO, just an annoying detail :yep:

Today, IXC 1940 is finished...i'm done with the types IX :up:
Still long road for types II and VII :ping:

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...8-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...1-resultat.jpg

Proud to present you new little baby convertion to SH4 OM...U-Boat type IIB :up:

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...3-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...9-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...5-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...7-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...4-resultat.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers...2-resultat.jpg

I have changed periscopes position for the attack one in the rear tube.
But waiting confirmation of this, i can easily go back for front tube.

The beauty of WAC submarines with the SH4 engine is just stunning :yep:

Holy crap the Submarines look amazing can;t wait for update.