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Tchocky 08-19-13 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2102694)
As much as I'd love to see California finally have "The Big one" and fall off the United States map as well, I can give you one good reason why you don't want to see that happen.

It would cause waves of refugees that would spread like a cancer to the rest of the US. For evidence of that, from what I understand, one need look no further then Colorado. I've heard that some years back, a large number of Californians moved to Colorado. Now look at what that's turned into today with their current legislation. At least without any natural disaster, the cancer that is the California is more contained then it would be otherwise.



Ugh.

August 08-19-13 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2102698)
Ducimus,

I respect your thoughts and you know that. When (Not if) it happens? It will be what it is at that moment.
That's called life or whatever name you wish to tag it with.
The only fear I could hold would be what will the Gov do at that time?
Will there be placements on the mountains to hold back the hords?
How will those Gov forces react? And how will it affect the rest of this Country?


Unfortunately as I understand it California can't fall into the ocean as everything west of the San Andreas is already sitting on the Pacific plate.

Ducimus 08-19-13 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2102700)
Ugh.

:haha:

Since your so happy with what I said, ill say a little more.

I have the opinion that I do, AND..... I was born in California. I grew up there. From kindergarten through high school. The state was my Home of Record while in the military. When I got out of the military, I went to college there. After that, I worked and lived there for over a decade.

What makes me different then other people from there? Being former military, I'm fairly well traveled. I've lived in other parts of the country, and other parts of the world. When I moved away from that cesspool called California for the last time, I did so with the knowledge that a different place means a different culture, different attitudes, and different beliefs. I left California behind me, and I did NOT bring it with me. Unlike other people that I have seen. I moved, left California behind, I integrated into my new home, and became a Utahn. I'm quite proud of this state, and of my new home. It's where Ill raise my family, and where I will someday be buried when my time comes.

The Peoples Republic of Cantaffordya can kiss my buttocks! :haha:

Platapus 08-19-13 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2102651)
Californicatia is already a seperate Nation-State that leads the way for undermineing the rest of the U.S. of A.
I pray for the Great Quake or Sunami myself.

When the big one comes, everything east of the SA fault will sink in to the Atlantic Ocean. :D

Platapus 08-19-13 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2102705)
Unfortunately as I understand it California can't fall into the ocean as everything west of the San Andreas is already sitting on the Pacific plate.


Yes, the plates are moving north east. So if anything "goes away" it will be Nevada.... There might be a downside to that though.

Madox58 08-19-13 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2102706)


The Peoples Republic of Cantaffordya can kiss my buttocks! :haha:

Careful there! They may have a tax on that also!
:D

Ducimus 08-19-13 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2102714)
Careful there! They may have a tax on that also!
:D

That would not surprise me in the least.

Going to be being somewhat on topic:

California Rifle Identification Flowchart
http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

That ought to make some heads hurt. Their laws are such a tangled web, a flowchart had to be created to figure out what is legal in that state and what isn't.

Edit: I just noticed that flowchart was made in 2011. It's probably even worse now.

Madox58 08-19-13 06:19 PM

Being your out of the State?
Travel expenses will be applied for the State assigned butt kisser to visit you.

:haha:

Jimbuna 08-20-13 04:48 AM

Can we all stay classy please and try to get along.

You never know, I may have California on a future holiday wish list and if mrs buna reads this I'll be forced to scratch it off.

Ducimus 08-20-13 06:22 AM

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4020/4...7500ccf12f.jpg
Happy holiday!

Wolferz 08-20-13 07:49 AM

The feds are putting the fence on the wrong border. Move it to the west in a more vertical fashion and install customs facilities.:up:

California IS like a country all its own...
One trip I made out there, I was stopped at the CA/NM border for a load check. They wanted to know what I was bringing into their state. I was like: Whisky Tango Foxtrot! over! Are you kidding me!?!?:huh::hmmm:
Every other state only wants to know how much you weigh.

I asked the guy; "Is Hamburger Helper considered contraband?" :stare: I was surprised that it wasn't. Bunch of Tofu eating idjits.

Aktungbby 08-20-13 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2102706)
:haha:

Since your so happy with what I said, ill say a little more.

I have the opinion that I do, AND..... I was born in California. I grew up there. From kindergarten through high school. The state was my Home of Record while in the military. When I got out of the military, I went to college there. After that, I worked and lived there for over a decade.

What makes me different then other people from there? Being former military, I'm fairly well traveled. I've lived in other parts of the country, and other parts of the world. When I moved away from that cesspool called California for the last time, I did so with the knowledge that a different place means a different culture, different attitudes, and different beliefs. I left California behind me, and I did NOT bring it with me. Unlike other people that I have seen. I moved, left California behind, I integrated into my new home, and became a Utahn. I'm quite proud of this state, and of my new home. It's where Ill raise my family, and where I will someday be buried when my time comes.

The Peoples Republic of Cantaffordya can kiss my buttocks! :haha:

THat's LECHEN mein ARSEN in the Uboot Waffe Ducibby.Transplanted my- self I might join you in Utah as they have better holidays; Pioneer Day and the opening of deer season.:arrgh!:

Aktungbby 08-20-13 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2102852)
Can we all stay classy please and try to get along.

You never know, I may have California on a future holiday wish list and if mrs buna reads this I'll be forced to scratch it off.

Send word ahead to the wine country we have soccer, rugby and castles too.:arrgh!:

Jimbuna 08-20-13 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2102891)
Happy holiday!

Recently learned a far more efficient mode whilst in Turkey and I know California has similar thermals :03:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6351/07mw.jpg

Ducimus 08-20-13 04:19 PM

More stupidity from the California, peoples republic of.

LA Community College drops NRA class after six years due to new regs

Now to be honest, I'm surprised that a community college would offer a firearms safety course. That said, I think it's a great idea. As much as liberals bitch about the NRA, the organization is the leading trainer in safe and proper handling, regardless if they choose to acknowledge that or not. As American citizens, we ALL have the right to keep and bear arms regardless if we choose to exercise that right or not. As a right that we are all supposed to have, proper training/education should be readily available for those who seek it.

That out of the way, here's the bit's that i really "liked".

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Board of Trustees Vice President Scott Svonkin, author the resolution that ushered in the new rules, told Campus Reform last Monday he believes school’s have no place teaching students how to use guns —but that its educators and faculty do have a responsibility to “promote gun control.
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“She said they are not allowed to even have the mention of the world ‘gun’ in their campus catalog, which I find utterly ridiculous and a total violation of the First Amendment … now this is a First Amendment issue," he said.
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Svonkin, who authored the resolution, told Campus Reform that he himself was not sure what “non-operational” meant.

“You know, I’m not an expert in guns,” he said.
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“I believe that the NRA's goal is to promote gun ownership, and that guns lead to deaths,” he said. “So, not having the NRA teach classes, not having the NRA classes on our campuses, is a good thing.”

“I’m much happier with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department protecting our students and our staff and our faculty than having some random person who took a three-hour class and thinks that they’re Dirty Harry,” he added.
So according to these idiots:

- Training and education about guns is bad. Ignorance is preferred.

- In the liberal world, you can pick and choose what natural rights exist and throw the rest out if you don't like them.

- They're not sure about guns because they don't believe in educating themselves about them, nonetheless they ban stuff they don't understand because they're jackasses.

- Guns are evil that will make a person do stupid things. It's not the person, it's the gun!

I suppose it wont be too long before even going through a hunter's saftey course will cause issues over there. After all, going hunting involves guns! OMG! BAN IT!

EDIT:
On a more humorous note, I'll toss this video link in:

The Nature Of Guns (How Anti's Think They Behave)

Tchocky 08-20-13 04:46 PM

Campus Reform - Objective and even-handed.

Stealhead 08-20-13 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2103163)
More stupidity from the California, peoples republic of.

I think that is pretty ridiculous when they make a rule that you can not even say a common word.:yeah:

You could use the word gun for so many non malicious reasons.For example how can you have a debate in a contemporary ethics class about gun control when you can not say the word gun on campus? Of course it says that they would not use it in the catalog not ban the word outright.

I would have a serious case of turrets syndrome at that campus.I would also have them play "I fought the Law" over the P.A. system.(2nd verse)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0sI6eFarFE

I have always challenged authority especially when it is corrupt(it always is in some way no matter the so called system being followed).I am surprised they allowed me to be an NCO in the Air Force of course that is because I actually did the job unlike half the people even in the military even as an NCO I stuck my neck out and said what I thought.If someone tried to mess with one of my troops and I knew it was bogus I would not stand for it either by going the official route or stepping out back if need be. Smart commanders actually like people like me being surrounded by yes men tends to blind you and it must get annoying receiving false respect.You want the real pulse not the one that you want to hear.

Ducimus 08-20-13 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2103175)
Campus Reform - Objective and even-handed.

Yeah the inference the name of that publication makes wasn't lost on me.

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2103176)
).I am surprised they allowed me to be an NCO in the Air Force of course that is because I actually did the job unlike half the people even in the military even as an NCO I stuck my neck out and said what I thought.


I'm surprised you made NCO too. I know all too well that sticking ones neck out and saying what you think will NOT get you far in the Air Force. LOL

CaptainMattJ. 08-20-13 05:57 PM

And some of the worst people I've ever met are from Utah, Provo in particular. That doesn't mean everybody from Utah is a terrible person, and that doesn't make Utah a terrible state.

In the same way it doesn't make any state in the union a "cancer". There are plenty of states i passionately dislike but i don't wish to see removed, or damaged, or beaten by cataclysms. I don't like New Jersey, that doesn't mean i hoped for Sandy to roll through and tear up the state.

Its hard to treat anyone's opinions as respectable when the hypocrisy, one-sidedness, and contempt become overwhelming.

Ducimus 08-20-13 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 2103204)
And some of the worst people I've ever met are from Utah, Provo in particular. That doesn't mean everybody from Utah is a terrible person, and that doesn't make Utah a terrible state.

In the same way it doesn't make any state in the union a "cancer". There are plenty of states i passionately dislike but i don't wish to see removed, or damaged, or beaten by cataclysms. I don't like New Jersey, that doesn't mean i hoped for Sandy to roll through and tear up the state.

Its hard to treat anyone's opinions as respectable when the hypocrisy, one-sidedness, and contempt become overwhelming.

You know what, I make no apologies. You can be upset, and I really don't care. Nor do i expect you to respect my informed opinion on that cancerous cesspool you call a state that is utterly bankrupt in every context imaginable. Frankly, based on past posts that i think you in particular made on constitutional and states rights, I have you figured as a poster child of that state. Your a big boy, I'm sure you can figure the rest out.


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