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GoldenRivet 01-10-13 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1990588)
Ah okay. Just making sure I have the terminology down.

Left wing lunatic: Dangerous extremist

Right wing lunatic: Passionate

i never associated left or right... i never said any of that :06:

edit: not sure what you want me to say Tak, i never put any politics into my comment.

i dont agree with the guy.

just saying i have rights... try to dismantle them i will fight to keep it them.

thats all i said

Takeda Shingen 01-10-13 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1990591)
i never associated left or right... i never said any of that :06:

Oh come on already. You've got an off-his-rocker conspiracy theorist screaming for 15 minutes on national television and the most you can say about him is that he is 'passionate'. If he were espousing left-wing views you would have no shortage of vitriol for him. But, he's on the side of firearms, so he gets the kid gloves.

GoldenRivet 01-10-13 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1990597)
Oh come on already. You've got an off-his-rocker conspiracy theorist screaming for 15 minutes on national television and the most you can say about him is that he is 'passionate'. If he were espousing left-wing views you would have no shortage of vitriol for him. But, he's on the side of firearms, so he gets the kid gloves.

Ok...

I want to eat his babies alive and i wish his wife had breast cancer

does that ummmm.... make you feel any better?

i really dont have much of an opinion about what the guy has to say, he doesnt speak for me... he got on the show and did his own thing. whatever.

we're apparently talking about two different issues and the issue im talking about doesnt involve the guy

Cybermat47 01-10-13 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1990597)
You've got an off-his-rocker conspiracy theorist screaming for 15 minutes on national television

I was on TV?! :o

GoldenRivet 01-10-13 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 1990605)
I was on TV?! :o

no no its ok calm down

drink your juice, just relax and go play your computer games :woot:

Cybermat47 01-10-13 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1990606)
no no its ok calm down

drink your juice, just relax and go play your computer games :woot:

OK.

GoldenRivet 01-10-13 01:50 AM

LMAO :haha:

TFatseas 01-10-13 02:40 AM

Great video on why I have no respect for Piers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRJ0ls_W9XM

He openly misinforms to fit his agenda.

Tribesman 01-10-13 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1990584)
If by passionate you mean batdung crazy, then yes he is passionate. Unless you share his belief that Piers Morgan is a mouthpiece of the New World Order that is seeking to bring about the one-world state by disarming the world's citizens and poisoning their minds with psychiatric drugs. Because that's exactly what he said.

But don't forget the follow up to the circus freak show, he said that he is now expecting to be assasinated by the NYPD and the mafia which is run by Bloomberg.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1990586)

I hold the opinion that it is my right, duty and responsibility to be armed and i believe i should be prepared to defend those rights whatever the cost may be. i think thats a fair opinion to have.

Whatever the cost may be is not a fair opinion it is a rather silly opinion if you look at the costs.
Allowing crazy loons unfettered access to firearms is one of the major costs you are happy to be paying

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 1990589)
It would be. But, as an anti-gun advocate, I would say that banning guns would cause even more suffering.

What do you mean by anti-gun and what do you mean by banning?


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Great video on why I have no respect for Piers.
Reality check fails on a scale that is equal to Morgan.
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He openly misinforms to fit his agenda.
And you cite Faux news which is openly misinforming to tell you another network is misinforming?

Cybermat47 01-10-13 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1990635)
What do you mean by anti-gun and what do you mean by banning?

I mean that I think that guns should be banned outright. But I'm also aware that, while the sensible gun owners will hand over their guns if guns are banned, some would shoot at any and all people who went over to them to confiscate their guns.

TFatseas 01-10-13 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1990635)

Reality check fails on a scale that is equal to Morgan.

And you cite Faux news which is openly misinforming to tell you another network is misinforming?

Cool, more fallacies. You argued nothing in the video, and attacked me.

Please, tell me how and what in that video was wrong, I'd be more than happy to hear it.

Tribesman 01-10-13 03:10 AM

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I mean that I think that guns should be banned outright.
Why?

Tribesman 01-10-13 03:17 AM

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Cool, more fallacies.
You are the one presenting fallacies, linking to a media piece doesn't show how bad morgan is it shows how bad the media can be.
Jones did a better job of demolishing Morgans credibility, but that job also includes Murdochs empire on a far greater scale.

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Please, tell me how and what in that video was wrong, I'd be more than happy to hear it.
Check the statistics and more importantly check their nature in relation to each other.
Even the main source cited on Fox puts a bloody big disclaimer on it.

Sailor Steve 01-10-13 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1990635)
And you cite Faux news which is openly misinforming to tell you another network is misinforming?

They cited a British source. Is it accurate or not?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2HQDkC3re

No, make that two.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...orld-list#data

You dismiss Ben Swann and Fox News out of hand, using the usual demeaning joke name, but it would seem he has his facts straight on this.

TarJak 01-10-13 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 1984331)

Incorrect:
http://www.aquaexplorers.com/fossil%...ekin%20(7).jpg:know:

Tribesman 01-10-13 05:41 AM

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They cited a British source. Is it accurate or not?
Daily Mail:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::hah a:
hmmmm...2009?
Even better they go back to 1997 as a measure even though that country completely changed their methods in a manner which means Britians figures cannot be compared with Britains figures.

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No, make that two.
Where is Britain on that table and why is data it from 2005?
Fox claimed 2011 and morgan claimed last year...does that make it irrelevant to the claims?

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You dismiss Ben Swann and Fox News out of hand
No I dismiss them after listening to what they are saying.
They are talking crap just like Morgan was talking crap.
Therefore they do not show how morgan was misinforming they are just misinforming.

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but it would seem he has his facts straight on this
Despite the obvious problems with different years different methodology and different categorisation which puts them all back to the academic level of back of the envolope calculations there are some glaringly obvious reasons why the misrepresentation is an epic fail.
Two further examples
Yemen:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:eve n a person bathed in ignorance should be able to see why you cannot use statistics from that country.
3 Carribean nations? don't they manage to destroy the whole supposed basis of the 2nd amendment?:hmmm:


Seriously Steve, you think would I dismiss Fox out of hand just because it is Murdoch any more than I would dismiss Morgan simply because he is a prat.
Hey I even read your Daily Fail before dismissing it just to double check that it was talking rubbish as usual.

Tribesman 01-10-13 05:54 AM

Hey Steve, as a bonus question how does the politicians made up figures from the second article link directly back to Ben Swanns boss?

Onkel Neal 01-10-13 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1990584)
If by passionate you mean batdung crazy, then yes he is passionate. Unless you share his belief that Piers Morgan is a mouthpiece of the New World Order that is seeking to bring about the one-world state by disarming the world's citizens and poisoning their minds with psychiatric drugs. Because that's exactly what he said.

Yeah, and HITLER! :haha:

Alex Jones, doing more to hurt the pro gun cause than 50 Sandy Hooks.

To be fair, here's some crazy from the anti-gun side

Tribesman 01-10-13 09:36 AM

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Yeah, and HITLER! :haha:
Thanks, that leads to another line of bull Jones trotted out.

Poor old uncle adolf abolished the very tight gun controls that existed during the Weimar republic.
Hitler wasn't someone that took away peoples guns, he took away the governments restrictions on firearms.
Hitler was a gun nut:rotfl2:

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To be fair,
Taking guns from the mentally unstable, stopping gun sales that do not do background checks for criminals and issueing licenses that have to be renewed so ongoing things which people agree should curtail your rights to a gun like felony convictions and mental problem can be checked.
Sorry I don't see the equation with the new world order global conspiracy nut who thinks the chinese civil war was won because only one side had guns

JU_88 01-10-13 10:21 AM

Wow I just saw the AJ rant on Peirs Morgan, painful to watch (probably because I can't stand either of them) :D
My opinion, Im in two minds about gun ownership, it has both advantages and disadvantages. But I reckon that in the current climate Americans should probably hang on their guns, since by handing them in now you'd putting complete faith in the frederal goverment, to: a) protect you, b) not screw you over.
I wouldnt bet on either.


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