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Armistead 11-09-12 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1958957)
Bull. You look at the last 100 religion threads in this forum. They're nearly all started by atheists for the purpose of displaying their hatred of religion and their contempt for the religious. Like any of us don't get it already.

To you their beliefs are lies and delusions and then you have the nerve to call it contempt and disrespect when they don't meekly agree with your message of hate. Now that is contemptible.

If you study the history of religion, you'll realize most doctrines were created or redefined by the upper classes to control the masses with fear and guilt. Maybe this was needed in the days of yore, when people feared the unknown, weren't educated, women had no rights, etc. The truth is religion and politics were a two headed monster for most history and really did nothing but insure the powerful to remain so.

Let's face it, the GOP is full of right wing religious radicals that would use government to insure and promote their beliefs on others. It doesn't matter who wins the nomination when you have nuts like Palin, Bachman, Ryan, etc., in the background basically preaching through politics. Their religious residue will stick to the GOP, hurting moderates. These nuts are biased, racist and want to promote their views of morality through government. You would or wouldn't be surprised the number of leading government leaders that still believe in myths over science, that follow a literal bible, wanting to impose a culture on us that existed thousands of years ago. I'm more socially liberal, but fiscally conservative and I tire of losing elections over religious right.

Tribesman 11-10-12 04:31 AM

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Not so fast. You level an accusation, you'd better back it up. Where are the anti-science threads? Where are the anti-atheist posts? Where is the disrespect toward non-believers?
Good point, I havn't seen a single post here claiming that Hurricane Sandy was a weather system created by sodomy.
There havn't been that many cretinism topics and the only noticable anti non religious are written in yubberish so they don't really couint

mookiemookie 11-10-12 07:58 AM

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Oberon 11-10-12 08:12 AM

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August 11-10-12 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1959011)
If you study the history of religion, you'll realize most doctrines were created or redefined by the upper classes to control the masses with fear and guilt. Maybe this was needed in the days of yore, when people feared the unknown, weren't educated, women had no rights, etc. The truth is religion and politics were a two headed monster for most history and really did nothing but insure the powerful to remain so.

Let's face it, the GOP is full of right wing religious radicals that would use government to insure and promote their beliefs on others. It doesn't matter who wins the nomination when you have nuts like Palin, Bachman, Ryan, etc., in the background basically preaching through politics. Their religious residue will stick to the GOP, hurting moderates. These nuts are biased, racist and want to promote their views of morality through government. You would or wouldn't be surprised the number of leading government leaders that still believe in myths over science, that follow a literal bible, wanting to impose a culture on us that existed thousands of years ago. I'm more socially liberal, but fiscally conservative and I tire of losing elections over religious right.

And what does any of that have to do with what I said?

Whatever the level of influence the religious right has on the GOP it still doesn't justify the constant insult and contempt that some here continually display about peoples personal beliefs. Do they think their contempt and disdain is going to open a believers eyes to their viewpoint?

If anything such disrespect gives your hated religious right the very influence you bemoan. It's a lot easier to keep people in line with fear when there is an element of truth to the story they can verify for themselves. One but has but to go to anywhere the anti-religious left frequents, internet forums especially, to find that verification. It doesn't matter if it is authored by some pimply faced teenager just to get a rise out of stuffy grownups, the vitriol is constant and vicious and anonymous.

Buddahaid 11-10-12 11:59 AM

Yubberish! :haha:

Armistead 11-10-12 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1959061)
Good point, I havn't seen a single post here claiming that Hurricane Sandy was a weather system created by sodomy.

You should try a fundy religious forum

Armistead 11-10-12 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1959130)
And what does any of that have to do with what I said?

Whatever the level of influence the religious right has on the GOP it still doesn't justify the constant insult and contempt that some here continually display about peoples personal beliefs. Do they think their contempt and disdain is going to open a believers eyes to their viewpoint?

If anything such disrespect gives your hated religious right the very influence you bemoan. It's a lot easier to keep people in line with fear when there is an element of truth to the story they can verify for themselves. One but has but to go to anywhere the anti-religious left frequents, internet forums especially, to find that verification. It doesn't matter if it is authored by some pimply faced teenager just to get a rise out of stuffy grownups, the vitriol is constant and vicious and anonymous.

Well, I've never attacked personal beliefs of anyone here and I don't know that I've ever seen anyone else do so on a personal level. Nor do I want to convert someone, except maybe to the principle "love others"

August 11-10-12 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1959180)
Well, I've never attacked personal beliefs of anyone here and I don't know that I've ever seen anyone else do so on a personal level. Nor do I want to convert someone, except maybe to the principle "love others"

Well I hope you realize that it wasn't directed at you personally.

Armistead 11-10-12 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1959188)
Well I hope you realize that it wasn't directed at you personally.

I don't take anything personal on the internet, not to be confused with things I find offensive, like Steve's avatar.

u crank 11-10-12 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1959164)
Yubberish! :haha:

Found on an anonymous and fictitious web site.

Yubberish:

Also known as Yubbareeze in every day language and in the more intellectual circles Yubbaspeak. A condition common among humans which causes a disconnect between speaking skills and common sense. It afflicts many and is equally prevalent in both right and left handed people. It sometimes occurs in tandem with another ailment, FIE syndrome, [fingers in ear] which results in the afflicted not being able to hear their own voice. If left untreated those who suffer sometimes end up having conversations with inanimate objects, usually television sets or computer screens. Although those who suffer are usually kind individuals when this involuntary disease crops up it causes embarrassment among friends and family members. Those who suffer are quite often misunderstood and there are rumours about special camps to help these individuals. Those not currently suffering are asked to be understanding with those who are, and what ever you do please do not drink from the same glass.

This disease is highly contagious.

Experts are working on a cure. Please be patient.

Armistead 11-10-12 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 1959213)
Found on an anonymous and fictitious web site.

Yubberish:

Also known as Yubbareeze in every day language and in the more intellectual circles Yubbaspeak. A condition common among humans which causes a disconnect between speaking skills and common sense. It afflicts many and is equally prevalent in both right and left handed people. It sometimes occurs in tandem with another ailment, FIE syndrome, [fingers in ear] which results in the afflicted not being able to hear their own voice. If left untreated those who suffer sometimes end up having conversations with inanimate objects, usually television sets or computer screens. Although those who suffer are usually kind individuals when this involuntary disease crops up it causes embarrassment among friends and family members. Those who suffer are quite often misunderstood and there are rumours about special camps to help these individuals. Those not currently suffering are asked to be understanding with those who are, and what ever you do please do not drink from the same glass.

This disease is highly contagious.

Experts are working on a cure. Please be patient.

We all grow old, no need to name it something else.

Sailor Steve 11-11-12 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1959191)
I don't take anything personal on the internet, not to be confused with things I find offensive, like Steve's avatar.

What would you like me to change it to? I'm always open to suggestions. :sunny:

Tribesman 11-11-12 03:34 AM

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You should try a fundy religious forum
Yes, but that was about this forum wasn't it, not some crazy literalist zealots siteof any of the flavours.
What I find more common here is not the level of religious/anti religious stuff, but more of the "this religious"/anti "that religous" stuff.


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