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Feuer Frei! 07-14-11 06:20 PM

Mercury Bullet, commonly called the Splatter Round.
I thought that the impact force of a mercury bullet was negligible, a hollow-point filled with mercury will retain its initial mass and momentum. The arguement, which i might add i raised in a previous post as a question now seems moot, after having thought about it for a while, on the one side arguing that mercury is heavier than lead, but on the other side, which i take side with, that over such short distances this is a invalid take.
But, what the mercury tip does is create s hock zone far greater than what a normal bullet would.
But you know all that. :03:

Gerald 07-14-11 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1704965)
Of course if you don't have one before necessity demands it it's already too late.

Of course it is so, the laws of the U.S. is different from what is generally the case in Europe, and then you can not go around the corner to "only" get a gun, because you have to have it, which certainly arouses irritation in some people.

Madox58 07-14-11 06:26 PM

If one only looks at Home defense?
A Hand Gun is the best weapon for the average person.
Easy to handle and use.
You can point it around a corner with little effort and exposure with very little weight to draw the weapon down.
3 or 4 rounds capped at the intruder should send them out the door even if you don't hit them!
Shot Guns give a wider Hit but are a bit bulky and require better training
to actually use in doors unless you just want to put big holes in your walls.

Don't believe HollyWood first off.
Your home probably only has 1/2" drywall on each side of your walls.
Some places may only have 3/8ths"!
I can put one of my swords through that!
Hell I can punch through that if need be!

A good Hand Gun, and a few tricks added to your home for a very low cost can save your life.

Gerald 07-14-11 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1704971)
If one only looks at Home defense?
A Hand Gun is the best weapon for the average person.
Easy to handle and use.
You can point it around a corner with little effort and exposure with very little weight to draw the weapon down.
3 or 4 rounds capped at the intruder should send them out the door even if you don't hit them!
Shot Guns give a wider Hit but are a bit bulky and require better training
to actually use in doors unless you just want to put big holes in your walls.

Don't believe HollyWood first off.
Your home probably only has 1/2" drywall on each side of your walls.
Some places may only have 3/8ths"!
I can put one of my swords through that!
Hell I can punch through that if need be!

A good Hand Gun, and a few tricks added to your home for a very low cost can save your life.

True, walls that are naturally amplified, and security doors is a base.

Madox58 07-14-11 06:41 PM

As an example?
My home was invaded while the Wife and I were in Hawaii a few years ago.
My Step-Son and a friend ended up in Hospitals and my home was trashed by the invaders.
I had nothing in place to handle something like that back then.
The Best Weapons I had were not available to my Step-Son then.
He tried going for some of my Swords as I did teach him how to use them.
He managed to give a few good cuts before he was taken down.

My home now has 'special' stuff.
Each room has what I call 'Flash Bang' lights.
Nothing more then Strobe Lights rigged to go off at my demand.
Extreme sirens wired into the same system.
Then a few more 'devices' I designed that I'll not talk about.

I've also given written notice to the local Law Dogs that should
ANYONE attempt entry to my Home?
I will Shoot First and deal with the out come later!

I would estimate a force of 12 trying to enter my home would result in 12 body bags being needed to haul them away.

Feuer Frei! 07-14-11 06:45 PM

It's hard to comprehend having to live in a setup like that.
I guess I really do live in the lucky country (Australia).

Gerald 07-14-11 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1704990)
As an example?
My home was invaded while the Wife and I were in Hawaii a few years ago.
My Step-Son and a friend ended up in Hospitals and my home was trashed by the invaders.
I had nothing in place to handle something like that back then.
The Best Weapons I had were not available to my Step-Son then.
He tried going for some of my Swords as I did teach him how to use them.
He managed to give a few good cuts before he was taken down.

My home now has 'special' stuff.
Each room has what I call 'Flash Bang' lights.
Nothing more then Strobe Lights rigged to go off at my demand.
Extreme sirens wired into the same system.
Then a few more 'devices' I designed that I'll not talk about.

I've also given written notice to the local Law Dogs that should
ANYONE attempt entry to my Home?
I will Shoot First and deal with the out come later!

I would estimate a force of 12 trying to enter my home would result in 12 body bags being needed to haul them away.

Sorry to hear this stuff, I understand that you've done that you now have, and I would have chosen a similar planning,Flash Grenades are a good product, and maybe going to get,depending on the qualification of course.

Castout 07-14-11 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1704720)
Worked on Trotsky... well it took a few days for him to die but it worked... :hmmm:

Good to hear. If you struck him in the neck or at the heart he would die quicker though. :O:

Golf sticks could be handy too but its rod is just useless, you need to hit with the bottom end. A head is one big golf ball, just make sure you have enough space to swing that thing before you try :D
http://images.wikia.com/dead-rising/..._Golf_Club.png

Madox58 07-14-11 07:17 PM

I live in a very small Village pretty much in the middle of no where land!
I was one of those who never figured this could happen to us.
Well it did.

I'll never be caught off guard again for such a situation!!

Gerald 07-14-11 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1705023)
I live in a very small Village pretty much in the middle of no where land!
I was one of those who never figured this could happen to us.
Well it did.

I'll never be caught off guard again for such a situation!!

I certainly hope so, that you do not have the,situation again :yep:

Madox58 07-14-11 07:42 PM

I am pretty much known as the ' Baddest Mofo in the Village' now.
:haha:

After the invasion, I chased down a 'few' people.
It was pretty ugly for those with any involvement.
Several went to prison.
Several went to Hospitals.
Several were 'invited' to leave the Village or face 'incidents' beyound accidents which might require massive medical costs.

I kind of became a Village Hero along with my usual 'Village Idiot' type appearence.
Of couse the local Law kind of played 'dumb' as I was doing them a favor.
:03:

And when I screwed up and was arrested for something?
I was given a very healthy break!
:up:

Krauter 07-14-11 08:49 PM

Though I'm glad you feel safer now privateer, I kind of feel sorry for you. Don't take this in the wrong way, but, sending people to a Hospital and threatening people and forcing them to leave town is something that, though I'm sure I'd enjoy doing in the thrill of the moment, I would feel terribly afterwards.

Maybe it's just me and my (short) life experiences growing up in a small town in Canada, but all of the steps and measures discussed in this thread sound like every person is planning on half the town hiding an AR and planning on sneaking into houses to steal the new borns...

Madox58 07-14-11 09:19 PM

Mate, Don't feel sorry for me.
It's hard to express how that episode changed our lives on a forum.
I left the U.S. Army and never touched a firearm again until this happened.
Nearly 20 years without ever touching a firearm!
Not in a single Gun in my home that whole time.
Because of where we live I felt they were not needed and the Wife hated them anyway.
I slept with and did things with them that I did not want one near me ever again.
Then the invasion happened.
It totally changed things in a way that turned my Life upside down!
I felt I had failed in my duty to protect my family!!
That is something you never want to go through!
As a trained deadly weapon for the U.S. Military?
I used everything I was taught to insure my family would be safe from then on!
I sought out the bad Guys and removed them by any means needed.
I added any defenses needed to protect my family from any sort of revenge those I had attacked might try.
I have sat in Court and made sure they did thier full time.
I have taken revenge on those that the Courts found 'Not enuff evidence'.
I have given the 'System' the first shot.
If they fail? I have resources that insure that the Guilty are punished.

I am not happy that I need to do what I have done.
It's probably the saddest part of my life that I need to do the things I do to protect my Loved ones.
But I WILL protect them!
And the cost to me does not matter in any way.

TLAM Strike 07-14-11 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1705081)
I am pretty much known as the ' Baddest Mofo in the Village' now.
:haha:

After the invasion, I chased down a 'few' people.
It was pretty ugly for those with any involvement.
Several went to prison.
Several went to Hospitals.
Several were 'invited' to leave the Village or face 'incidents' beyound accidents which might require massive medical costs.

I kind of became a Village Hero along with my usual 'Village Idiot' type appearence.
Of couse the local Law kind of played 'dumb' as I was doing them a favor.
:03:

And when I screwed up and was arrested for something?
I was given a very healthy break!
:up:

And after that he sold his story to Hollywood and they made a movie based on the life of Privateer...

;)

Krauter 07-14-11 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1705160)
Mate, Don't feel sorry for me.
It's hard to express how that episode changed our lives on a forum.
I left the U.S. Army and never touched a firearm again until this happened.
Nearly 20 years without ever touching a firearm!
Not in a single Gun in my home that whole time.
Because of where we live I felt they were not needed and the Wife hated them anyway.
I slept with and did things with them that I did not want one near me ever again.
Then the invasion happened.
It totally changed things in a way that turned my Life upside down!
I felt I had failed in my duty to protect my family!!
That is something you never want to go through!
As a trained deadly weapon for the U.S. Military?
I used everything I was taught to insure my family would be safe from then on!
I sought out the bad Guys and removed them by any means needed.
I added any defenses needed to protect my family from any sort of revenge those I had attacked might try.
I have sat in Court and made sure they did thier full time.
I have taken revenge on those that the Courts found 'Not enuff evidence'.
I have given the 'System' the first shot.
If they fail? I have resources that insure that the Guilty are punished.

I am not happy that I need to do what I have done.
It's probably the saddest part of my life that I need to do the things I do to protect my Loved ones.
But I WILL protect them!
And the cost to me does not matter in any way.

:salute: Respect to you sir

Madox58 07-14-11 09:43 PM

How I could wish Mate!!
:haha:
But I doubt thumping a few Dope Heads to get them to talk would make a good Movie.
And my Village has less then 800 people in it.
So it's pretty easy to figure out who is into what.
I just happen to care more about my family then the average Joe around here.
Jail means nothing to me plus I make it very clear.....
Call the Cops and it WILL be worse when I get out if not before!

It's pretty intimidateing when at a phone call I can plant several hundred
'Colors Flying' MC Groups in front of a house.

Anthony W. 07-14-11 10:10 PM

Okay, I've made my first gun decision.

I've always been attracted to revolvers... I'm going to get a high quality 44. Magnum to keep under the bed.

As for the rifle... Not sure...

TLAM Strike 07-14-11 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1705186)
I've always been attracted to revolvers... I'm going to get a high quality 44. Magnum...

Required...

Feuer Frei! 07-14-11 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1705186)
Okay, I've made my first gun decision.

And i'm sure it won't be the last.
You've got a year.

Anthony W. 07-14-11 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1705191)
And i'm sure it won't be the last.
You've got a year.

This is true.


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