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TLAM Strike 01-01-12 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1813730)
How loosely?

"I'm not going to sleep tonight" loosely. :)

Captain goes loony thinking his submarine is under attack and WWIII has begun then almost fires his nuclear torpedo at the carrier USS Randolf before his XO Captain Vasili Arkhipov talks him down and convinces him to surface and regain contact with Moscow.

Captain Vasili Arkhipov was also the IRL XO of the K-19, his actions during Operation Anadyr inspired the (fictional) actions of the character based on him in K-19: The Widdowmaker.

USS Drum 01-01-12 08:45 PM

Here's what wiki says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiki (Post 1813752)
Cuban Missile Crisis

On October 27, 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, a group of eleven United States Navy destroyers and the aircraft carrier USS Randolph trapped a nuclear-armed Soviet Foxtrot class submarine B-59 near Cuba and started dropping practice depth charges, explosives intended to force the submarine to come to the surface for identification. The captain of the submarine, Valentin Grigorievitch Savitsky, believing that a war might already have started, wanted to launch a nuclear-tipped torpedo, despite the Soviets being informed that practice depth charges were being used.[3]
Three officers on board the submarine — Savitsky, the Political Officer Ivan Semonovich Maslennikov, and the second in command Arkhipov — were authorized to launch the torpedo if agreeing unanimously in favor of doing so. An argument broke out among the three, in which only Arkhipov was against the launch,[4] eventually persuading Savitsky to surface the submarine and await orders from Moscow. The nuclear warfare which presumably would have ensued was thus averted.[5] Arkhipov's actions served, in part, as the inspiration for the American film Crimson Tide.


Randomizer 01-01-12 11:32 PM

Both of these accounts are widely at variance with that in Peter Huchthausen's book October Fury.

According to Huchthausen (who was a CIC Talker on USS Blandy (DD 943) with the Essex CVBG at the time), the most tense period was when Captain 2nd Rank Savitsky requested bread and cigarettes from USS Cony (DDE 508) acting as close escort after B-59 surfaced. A bosun on Cony fired a line gun over to B-59, something that was outside of the Soviet sailor's experience and was initially mistaken for a hostile shot. The Russian's used a bolo to heave lines.

Later a Navy P2V Neptune dropped some "incendiary devices" on B-59 while she was sailing in tandem with Cony and the former maneuvered to place the American destroyer escort in the arcs of her forward torpedoes but Cony apologized to B-59 by searchlight and sent a snot-gram to the Neptune squadron commander. He quotes one member of Cony's bridge watch as commenting this incident was "pretty exciting".

There was apperently tension between Savitsky and Arkhipov after B-59 was detected and the Americans were dropping hand grenades to get the Soviet boat to surface but if Huchthausen's account is accurate (and his primary sources are far more extensive than the wiki article), there was never a real threat of B-59 shooting first even though nuclear release had been delegated to her commanding officer before they left base as part of the operation order.

Captain 1st Rank Arkhipov was not B-59's captain, he was chief of staff of the Red Banner Northern Fleet's 69th Submarine Brigade, the submarine component of Operation Anadyr. The Brigade Commander, Captain 1st Rank Agafonov traveled in B-4.

I have no idea which is the authoritative account of these events, the the wiki certainly has greater drama but Huchthausen's more prosaic version of events rings truer to me.

bill clarke 09-19-12 04:51 AM

I'd like to chime in here,

Ice Station Zebra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du7ls7v2uYQ

The Bedford Incident,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=558o0LjxTvI

And

Operation Petticoat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ttd...eature=related

Almost forgot :

Hell and High Water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUb_cG_BdxM

Tarnsman 10-02-12 11:32 PM

OK here goes

5. Hunt for Red October
- Cracking good yarn. Lots of moving pieces but I will never forgive the shot of the Panther crashing on deck 40 years after it took off.

4. Run Silent Run Deep
- Great drama, made you feel as if you were part of a real crew, cut the WWII schmaltz way down especially for a 50s movie.

3. Enemy Below
- Maybe not as good a film as RSRD looking back on it. But It sucks me in everytime I see it, and Ive seen it at least 15 times now.

2. K-19 The Widowmaker
- Very good movie. Not to be missed.

1. Das Boot
- Saw it orginally in the theater when it came out. Still the most intense war movie ever made. Rivet counter nirvana, will probably never be topped in the sub film genre.

Cybermat47 10-02-12 11:42 PM

Here's my list:
1. Das Boot

2. The Hunt for Red October

3. The Enemy Below

4. U-571

5.umm... The Spy Who Loved Me?

WAR JUNKIE 06-20-13 03:12 PM

Submarine Movies
 
Im looking for a submarine movie that has captions in the beginning of it that are roughly like this:


If you though the Cuban missle crisis has brought us yards within a nuclear war then this brough us inches....

could somebody please help me find it?

Red October1984 06-20-13 03:21 PM

I can't help you. I haven't seen a movie like that. Sorry....

Here's my updated list.

1. Run Silent Run Deep

2. The Enemy Below

3. Das Boot (In German with English Subtitles only!)

4. Crash Dive

5. Operation Pacific


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