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TorpX 03-06-11 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1613138)
But yubba the thing you don't seem to realise is that it's the same no matter what government there is. In Soviet Russia the rich were rich and powerful and the poor were poor, in Uganda, the rich are rich and powerful, the poor are poor, in the UK the rich are rich and powerful and the poor are poor. It's got nothing to do with governments but human nature, and that goes beyond any constitution, any laws, and any nation. Sure, you can have communist revolutions, but all that does is change the person in charge, it doesn't make the poor automatically rich, nor does it make the rich the same as the poor.

So living in South Korea is the same as living in North Korea?

I don't come here to argue about politics, but do you really believe that?

Feuer Frei! 03-06-11 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1613397)
Yes, you posted that already. You also posted that other vid a few dozen
times already, so no need to post that either.

If you don't have anything to say, have a nice warm cup of stfu. ;)

:har:

Oberon 03-06-11 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX (Post 1613793)
So living in South Korea is the same as living in North Korea?

I don't come here to argue about politics, but do you really believe that?

At a basic level yes.
There are rich people in North and South Korea, in North Korea they are the high level military and the favoured ones, in the south they are government and business. There are still poor in both north and south. The only difference is how poor they are. If you start factoring in freedom of action, then yes there is a huge difference, but that freedom of action does not make you any richer, it just allows you to complain about being poor and perhaps shuffle around the guys in charge every now and then.
People in the middle have a good chance, they can go up or down the ladder, but people right down at the bottom...a lot of the time the cycle eats them, they get stuck in with the wrong people and that's how it goes. Even in the poor you get different types, gangster poor which is quite rich but in all the wrong things, hobo poor which is completely poor or just working class poor which involves working all hours god sends just to keep a roof over your head as opposed to someone who works four hours a day and gets paid for twenty plus gets a bonus for securing a business deal over wine and dinner. It's that kind of difference that takes place in every nation on this planet, because it's human nature that there is always people at the top and people at the bottom, the only thing that varies from country to country is what they are called.

Bubblehead1980 03-06-11 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Morts (Post 1612242)
or....maybe !...people are just tired of hearing
Obama This !
Obama That !
Obama Here !
Obama There !
:hmmm:


Well I imagine as long as the jerk is in office there will be threads about him.Don't like it? Don't read it, same thing as when there is a show on tv you dislike, don't watch it.I could see a complaint if there was a "bill clinton" thread all the time but there is not, because he is out of office.Obamacare's unconstitutionality is a huge deal, if it stands it means our constitution is basically worthless now, if it falls, then it means the foundation of our republic still means something.Way bigger deal, esp long term than many other issues.

Bubblehead1980 03-06-11 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1613093)
Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change.
The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.


Very cynical and incorrect view....

Oberon 03-06-11 08:22 PM

We'll see. However I think we can both agree that unless the Republicans elect a real lame duck or scare-monkey as their candidate for 2012 then Obama will be going. That much is inevitable.
How much the poor will benefit from it is debatable, likewise the rich.

Takeda Shingen 03-06-11 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1613848)
Well I imagine as long as the jerk is in office there will be threads about him.Don't like it? Don't read it, same thing as when there is a show on tv you dislike, don't watch it.I could see a complaint if there was a "bill clinton" thread all the time but there is not, because he is out of office.

Also an incorrect view, in-so-far as forum policy is concerned.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq....ules3_faq_item

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Originally Posted by The Rules
Please do not engage in "topic spamming", where you post several threads on the essentially the same topic in a short period of time. If you want to discuss women's synchronized swimming, fine; start a topic on it. But don't start another topic on women's synchronized swimming clothing, women's synchronized swimming schedules, etc. for several weeks. Same goes with threads on politics, religon, and cultural issues. We don't need six threads on "Obama is ruining America" and eight topics on "Arabs are Evillll!" on the same page.


Bubblehead1980 03-07-11 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1613853)
We'll see. However I think we can both agree that unless the Republicans elect a real lame duck or scare-monkey as their candidate for 2012 then Obama will be going. That much is inevitable.
How much the poor will benefit from it is debatable, likewise the rich.


I can agree Obama will be going unless they put Palin or Romney(he just doesnt fire up the base enough due to his liberal tendencies, theyll stay home I bet)

I agree how much one class will benefit as opposed to the other is debatable but to say it does not really matter is a bit much, thus why I said incorrect.One thing that needs to stop is the class warfare, which Obama survives on, really bad for our society.

Bubblehead1980 03-07-11 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1613861)
Also an incorrect view, in-so-far as forum policy is concerned.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq....ules3_faq_item


Thing is, if one poster posts a thread concerning obama then another poster posts on a DIFFERENT topic but it involves Obama in some way, that is not spamming really.The "obamacare" thread was actually a thread concerning the US Judge who handed down another ruling concerning the healthcare law, the OP found it relevant and posted, which in turn brought much discussion.Not spamming, annoying to some but as said, don't like it, don't read the thread.I see threads on here all the time that annoy me, guess what? I don't moan and complain like a lady, I ignore the thread.

True topic spamming, yes annoying.

Hottentot 03-07-11 01:20 AM

Didn't we have "Bash Obama"-thread stickied during the elections? Maybe we could use something like that again?

It could be called "Agitprop is alive and well, thanks for asking"

HunterICX 03-07-11 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1613848)
Well I imagine as long as the jerk is in office there will be threads about him.

I'll have to correct you....

as long there's ANY jerk in that white house there'll be these annoying thread spams about how bad he is and how he screws over the nation.

and really this repeative bashing of the same subject or person is really pethatic, especially as show many times of late that noone will take you serious anymore.

ow...and as for this ain't topic spam...care to explain this? (result #1 & #4)
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4493/spamkm.jpg

HunterICX

Bubblehead1980 03-07-11 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 1614008)
I'll have to correct you....

as long there's ANY jerk in that white house there'll be these annoying thread spams about how bad he is and how he screws over the nation.

and really this repeative bashing of the same subject or person is really pethatic, especially as show many times of late that noone will take you serious anymore.

ow...and as for this ain't topic spam...care to explain this? (result #1 & #4)
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4493/spamkm.jpg

HunterICX


That is your opinion...yes they all involve obama but different subjects, minus the two healthcare posts, which even then were warranted to be seperate threads instead of bringing up an older thread, poster's discretion.Really though, just don't read the threads if you have that much of a problem.

Bubblehead1980 03-07-11 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1613953)
Didn't we have "Bash Obama"-thread stickied during the elections? Maybe we could use something like that again?

It could be called "Agitprop is alive and well, thanks for asking"


Because the threads are not about bashing barry o, it's about various topics that happen to involve him.Under the "one obama thread" line of thinking, a thread about obamacare should also involve obama's handling of foreign affairs....that would make no sense at all.

Takeda Shingen 03-07-11 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1613952)
Thing is, if one poster posts a thread concerning obama then another poster posts on a DIFFERENT topic but it involves Obama in some way, that is not spamming really.The "obamacare" thread was actually a thread concerning the US Judge who handed down another ruling concerning the healthcare law, the OP found it relevant and posted, which in turn brought much discussion.Not spamming, annoying to some but as said, don't like it, don't read the thread.I see threads on here all the time that annoy me, guess what? I don't moan and complain like a lady, I ignore the thread.

True topic spamming, yes annoying.

Again, read the rules. Mr. Stevens is very clear, and it doesn't matter if you decide to interpret it in any way that you see fit. The Obama threads are, in fact, 'true' topic spamming (as if there were such a thing as 'false' topic spamming). Trust me, I have a pretty good understanding of the rules around here.

yubba 03-07-11 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1613143)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsJKT...eature=related :har: well in the United States back before the government wanted to be european, no offence, everybody has a chance to be anything they want to be, that's who we are as a people, that's what makes us America, this government is blocking us from and destroying our dreams, we are a free people and we will get this turned around, because this over reaching government is broken, and broke, we will rise again, a whole lot stronger and wiser, you can not suppress freedom, from freedom minded people, we are not drones and we will not go down without a fight, it is not about the rich against the poor or the middle class, it is us the american people, white, black,red, yellow, old, young, poor, middle class, rich ,and who ever else on this earth who wants to be free, against this, US administration. It is very simple either you are for freedom or against it , I'll stick by the Constitution, we do take new members brother. vote and make right choices if we loose we loose everything and I mean everything, Subsim.com included so you better step up.

I meant this with all my heart:salute:keep an eye on Saudi Arabia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsJKT...eature=related

Ducimus 03-07-11 09:44 PM

Ok im going to be honest and blunt.

General topics has, a set number of regular readers and posters. Everyone's thoughts, stance, and position on various subjects is, or becomes, well known.

So im going to hazard a guess that everybody who posts here, knows how various people here feel about the current administration. Now here comes the clue, some of you missed and im going to stick my neck out by using a plural word, but....

Ok on the subject of Obama.......
YES WE KNOW. We know you hate his guts. WE GET THAT. (I'm not a fan either, but it's not like i waste my time ranting about it)

Continually restating that you hate obama in new and creative ways does nothing except annoy the crap out of everyone else who isn't in your masturbatory circle of thought.

Yes you read me right. By continually posting on the same topic, all your doing, in a figurative sense, is masterbating. All your Obama posts and threads? It's all self gratification to make you feel better, That is ALL your doing. The trouble is, everyone else is the pivot man to your virtual circle jerk regardless if they want to be involved in the topic or not, because it gets pasted all over the place.

yubba 03-07-11 11:23 PM

Well ex cussssssssse me, well if we don't get our heads out of our torpedo tubes there will be a day we turn on our computers, and this site and other beloved places might not be there. regulate, regulate, regulate, and we'll all will be drones.

Hottentot 03-08-11 02:41 AM

^^
Comments like the above might contribute something to what HunterICX said about being taken seriously. It has been noted several times that this is a right-leaning forum, but I don't think anyone has a problem with that. Also, as Ducimus said, it has been noted that some people here don't like Obama and can be passionate about it, but I don't think anyone has a problem with that either.

It's just that comments like the above, at least in my opinion, are not much different from the ridiculous "OMG 9/11 was Bush's conspiracy LOLBBQ". The "scum this" and "garbage that" is just getting repetitive, especially when it's in multiple different topics.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I don't see how "we'll all be drones" includes, for example, us Europeans. Will Jawabama put something in our water to make us drones too?

Tribesman 03-08-11 05:13 AM

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Will Jawabama put something in our water to make us drones too?
Yes the aliens who run the earth and universe will take a break from building their secret telescopes and hiding planets to supply the manchurian kenyan muslim antichrist from asia like in the bible who is in the whitehouse with the magic negro clone drone maker.
They will also enlist the aid of the liberal jewish east coast californian european media to convince us to drink it.

The only thing saving us from this threat is some fellow who appears to be going through a very bad detox and has that mysterious sense of clarity which comes from finally glimpsing something very foggy after total blindness

Takeda Shingen 03-08-11 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1614698)
Yes the aliens who run the earth and universe will take a break from building their secret telescopes and hiding planets to supply the manchurian kenyan muslim antichrist from asia like in the bible who is in the whitehouse with the magic negro clone drone maker.
They will also enlist the aid of the liberal jewish east coast californian european media to convince us to drink it.

And, evidently, they're all working together to shut down SubSim. Talk about setting the bar low.


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