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jumpy 04-15-11 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1615555)

I wonder how many people would buy a diesel car if the taxes were more aligned with what people bay for MoGas?

MoGas = LPG? (lpg used to be about 30-40ppl it's now around twice that much)

Well, here in blighty diesel used to be cheaper than petrol, this, encouraged by the government, led to many people buying diesel cars. Over time diesel became more expensive with the addition of higher fuel duty. dutylolz. I'd expect your model to follow the same lines.... be afraid, be very afraid.

Currently 1 litre of diesel can be as much as £1.41.9 (indeed higher in some places), with petrol being about 5ppl cheaper.

in real terms it means filling up from empty will cost about £130.00 per tank (89L).
This is with the bog-standard economy diesel fuel, never mind about your V-power from shell or whatever.
It makes me rage every time I get rapped at the pump.

Bakkels 04-15-11 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jumpy (Post 1643935)
MoGas = LPG? (lpg used to be about 30-40ppl it's now around twice that much)

Well, here in blighty diesel used to be cheaper than petrol, this, encouraged by the government, led to many people buying diesel cars. Over time diesel became more expensive with the addition of higher fuel duty. dutylolz. I'd expect your model to follow the same lines.... be afraid, be very afraid.

Currently 1 litre of diesel can be as much as £1.41.9 (indeed higher in some places), with petrol being about 5ppl cheaper.

in real terms it means filling up from empty will cost about £130.00 per tank (89L).
This is with the bog-standard economy diesel fuel, never mind about your V-power from shell or whatever.
It makes me rage every time I get rapped at the pump.

So diesel is more expensive in the UK than regular petrol? :hmmm:
That's kinda weird.. Or are there tax-benefits when driving diesel in the UK? Cause here in the Netherlands, diesel is quite a bit cheaper than petrol, but you pay more road-tax (or whatever it's called in English).
So you only benefit from diesel when you're driving more than 30.000 km.

Ducimus 04-15-11 07:18 PM

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MoGas = LPG?
I dunno what LPG is, but "MoGas" is what Unleaded gasoline is called in the US military.

jumpy 04-15-11 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1643944)
So diesel is more expensive in the UK than regular petrol? :hmmm:
That's kinda weird.. Or are there tax-benefits when driving diesel in the UK? Cause here in the Netherlands, diesel is quite a bit cheaper than petrol, but you pay more road-tax (or whatever it's called in English).
So you only benefit from diesel when you're driving more than 30.000 km.

No tax benefits for driving a diesel. You can get vehicles that get cheaper road tax, but that's based on retrospective (back to vehicles registered from 2001) road tax based on c02 emissions*. Basically less emissions = less tax, and in some cases, no road tax at all.

Essentially, drivers here have been encouraged to buy diesel vehicles - the original cost of diesel in the UK was cheaper than petrol - diesel was hailed as more efficient and therefore greener and less polluting than petrol.
So more people got diesel cars. The end result is that diesel is now more expensive than unleaded petrol, by a margin of at least 5 pence per litre on average.
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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1643947)
I dunno what LPG is, but "MoGas" is what Unleaded gasoline is called in the US military.

Ah, ok. LPG - liquid petroleum gas.


* whilst this has made the road tax on some cars cheaper, it has made others more expensive. Eg. landrover discovery 2001 TD5 2.5L used to cost about £200 per year to tax. After the retrospective change in road tax back to 2001, the same vehicle is now about £400 to tax for the year.

Jimbuna 04-17-11 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jumpy (Post 1643980)

Essentially, drivers here have been encouraged to buy diesel vehicles - the original cost of diesel in the UK was cheaper than petrol - diesel was hailed as more efficient and therefore greener and less polluting than petrol.
So more people got diesel cars. The end result is that diesel is now more expensive than unleaded petrol, by a margin of at least 5 pence per litre on average.

Reminds me of the eighties when the Thatcher administration opened up council houses for sale and encouraged people to purchase tey're own property.

Look at the situation in recent years and the number of homes repossessed.

Gerald 04-17-11 08:48 AM

1.4 euro One litre Petrol

nikimcbee 04-17-11 10:26 AM

~$3.80:shifty:

I miss my .99 cent gas from the mid 90s:dead:.

Jimbuna 04-17-11 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1644995)
~$3.80:shifty:

I miss my .99 cent gas from the mid 90s:dead:.

Yeah but that's per gallon not per litre :DL

DarkFish 04-17-11 02:00 PM

€1.65 a litre

How many litres is a gallon anyway? Wikipedia gives 2 different types of US gallons.
Crazy Americans with all your strange units... miles, feet, gallons, ounces...

Gerald 04-17-11 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1645103)
€1.65 a litre

How many litres is a gallon anyway? Wikipedia gives 2 different types of US gallons.
Crazy Americans with all your strange units... miles, feet, gallons, ounces...

1 US gallon = 3.785411784 liters/1 UK (Imperial) gallon = 4.54609188 liters.

http://www.teaching-english-in-japan...ersion/gallons

Jimbuna 04-17-11 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1645103)
€1.65 a litre

How many litres is a gallon anyway? Wikipedia gives 2 different types of US gallons.
Crazy Americans with all your strange units... miles, feet, gallons, ounces...

It's smaller than the imperial gallon of 4.54 but I doubt they care at the lower prices they are paying.

Sailor Steve 04-17-11 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1644995)
I miss my .99 cent gas from the mid 90s:dead:.

And I miss my .25 cent gas from the mid '60s. On the other hand I recall once seeing a cartoon in a very old book on the Ford Model T. A guy is staring at a pump and saying "Fifteen cents a gallon? That's highway robbery!"

I saw $3.55 at a station yesterday.

Jimbuna 04-17-11 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1645137)
And I miss my .25 cent gas from the mid '60s. On the other hand I recall once seeing a cartoon in a very old book on the Ford Model T. A guy is staring at a pump and saying "Fifteen cents a gallon? That's highway robbery!"

I saw $3.55 at a station yesterday.

Pump it direct to the Buna estate Steve and I'll pay you double what you paid...how's that for a cool business arrangemment? :DL

Gerald 04-17-11 02:45 PM

http://i.imgur.com/KcXIV.jpg
A consumer pumps gasoline at a gas station in Sandy Springs, Ga. Already tumbling due to increased production and a boost in imports, gas prices could dip more as refiners start selling less-expensive winter fuel blends.

http://i.imgur.com/7nhbI.jpg
The remnants of an old car and gas pump at Bob Audette's place, east of Edgewood.

Platapus 04-17-11 06:14 PM

I remember my dad telling me how his friends used to tease him because my dad paid $0.26 per gallon of Arco White Gas. He was just throwing his money away!

Them days is gone. :nope:

Sailor Steve 04-17-11 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1645150)
Pump it direct to the Buna estate Steve and I'll pay you double what you paid...how's that for a cool business arrangemment? :DL

Considering the money I'd have to spend on the pipes to get it there, not so much. :sunny:

Jimbuna 04-18-11 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1645413)
Considering the money I'd have to spend on the pipes to get it there, not so much. :sunny:

I'll create a single mission with a convoy full of large tankers and no u-boats enroute....should be cost effective/cheap as chips :DL

Ducimus 04-18-11 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1645132)
It's smaller than the imperial gallon of 4.54 but I doubt they care at the lower prices they are paying.

When your daily commute is 60 miles a day, gas prices will bite you hard at 4.XX plus a gallon.

I used to drive 74 miles per day. When my company moves location (assuming im still here and not laid off), my 60 mile per day commute, will be upped to 80 miles per day.

So our prices don't seem so low to me.

What's the average commute for an average Joe drive in the UK? It can't be anywhere what were forced to drive here. Between those big ass busses, subways, trains, etc, all the mass transit that im assuming you have that we don't, leads me to think you can't be driving nearly as far.

FIREWALL 04-18-11 02:27 PM

Most of the gas stations around me are near $5.00 a gallon. :cry:

Jimbuna 04-18-11 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1646019)
When your daily commute is 60 miles a day, gas prices will bite you hard at 4.XX plus a gallon.

I used to drive 74 miles per day. When my company moves location (assuming im still here and not laid off), my 60 mile per day commute, will be upped to 80 miles per day.

So our prices don't seem so low to me.

What's the average commute for an average Joe drive in the UK? It can't be anywhere what were forced to drive here. Between those big ass busses, subways, trains, etc, all the mass transit that im assuming you have that we don't, leads me to think you can't be driving nearly as far.

No, I guess your right on the average daily commute to work but just top make your day, I travel 1 1/2 miles.......but still by car and receive 42 pence per mile allowance :DL


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