i hope this isnt a sign of the new sinking dynamics they promised were in the game, if it is then i see lots of modding work to do.


note the ship has also turned 180 degrees too if thats the same ship :06:

The ship isn't sinking bow first. The stern section got cut off very straight from up to down and because of the angle the wreck already has and of the camera position it looks like it's the bow. Take a look at a high-res version of the picture.
Here: http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/or...0818092145.jpg

Great photo Anton88

Judging from the crap icons i'd say it's the XBox or PS3 version:har:

i have to say, the water renderer in the august screenshots wasn't that impressive, but in the winter shots that came out in october, the water looks absolutely stunning~!

I like how it looks on the surface, but underwater is again BAD. I won't hold my breath for variable visibility, but they should at least make it 100 % murky at 100 meters. Which I'll probably mod to 50 meters :haha:. If I remember my physics correctly, when you're near the surface and look parallel with the water, you see a reflection of what's below. The more you look up, the more you see the sky and less reflection. If that red spot in the pic is a reflection of the sub, the OK, if it's the fire of the wreck mirroring on the other side of the surface, that's BAD. In one game I've seen them making the water very blurry, to mimic the effect on human eyes. Sure, the cameras don't have that but it was a nice touch... Another problem with SH has been the sea floor. It's too bright. It should be indeed bright if the water is shallow and the sun is shining, but otherwise it should be shadowed. And also, the haze that they used so far cuts too abruptly (maybe because of modding). The pic shows a much better haze. Oh , and I don't want to see SHET underwater at night. BTW, you guys remember the default water in SH3? :D You could see the Mariana Trench bottom.

underwater particles and plankton is a must-have

Sh3 not looking realistic enough? We must talk about different games then...: ;)

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4...9849843.th.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6...5250125.th.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5089/...7403968.th.jpg

SH3 with GWX is easily a match for SH4. I love both games, though. Each for its unique theme and flavour.

Did you read the whole thread? Nobody has once said that SH3 wasn't realistic enough. In fact, what was said was that SH3 was realistic and SH4 looked like a cartoon; hence my post.


Now, what do you mean by match. I said that I wouldn't trade SH3 for anything. On the other hand, the pictures you posted were beautiful. But real? Not even close. SH4 (with the environmental mods) can give water that actually looks like real water (again refer to my shot). I've been commenting for years that the biggest problem with SH4 is that it looks like toy boats in the real ocean.

Why? They look like crap in SH4 and don't do a thing for immersion or gameplay.

Can one even see plankton at that level? :hmmm:

Unless, of course, it's http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ca...x-Plankton.png

As if ANYONE would ever do that...:DL

I disagree with you there, the Atlantic/North sea DOES look like the screenshots from SH3/GWX. I sailed quite a lot on the later and now that grey sky/grey water or the cold sunlight looks perfectly. However you might be right about the pacific area, I saw a movie yesterday that showed that the sunsets and waves there are just like in your screenshot. I guess SH3 could not model that convincingly enough even if it tried.

Playing Operation Monsun atm and as good as the mod is, SH4 itself has clearly problems rendering the North Sea convincingly. It seems those 2 games were tailor-cut for the environments they were supposed to play in.

And to show you that SH4 really is better in rendering the Pacific and to confirm your statement about the realistic pacific:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5...5454625.th.jpg


http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/462...2535250.th.jpg

And to confirm my statement about the more realistic north sea in SH3:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1...4323178.th.jpg

I don't know EXACTLY what the difference is, but I think the water and the sky in SH3 look colder, rougher, less colorful. A sunset like those in the Pacific would surely surprise everyone here. (I envy you for them :88) )

I wasn't criticizing SH3's graphics at all, just defending SH4's from the allegation that they were "cartoonish".

And I agree - SH3 does indeed catch that 'cold' feeling. I just think that with 4 they've come a lot closer to actually looking like a photograp. From the shots so far it looks like SH5 may capture both. I hope it turns out that way when we actually play the game.

You are absolutely right, SH4 does NOT look cartoonish, it simulates a totally different area, weather, ocean and does that very good.:up:

The only thing I don't like with SH4 sea is in the evening & morning, looks too black to me!!:hmmm:

Has nothing to do with screenshots... but on the german ubi forum the devs said there would be a nw video released today...


maybe it would also be good to make this thread sticky so that everyone can get a good idea of Sh5 - you know picturs tell more than thousand words ;)

A video, 'bout time :D

Thousands of fans await...
:yeah:

Here it is:

The video: http://ubitv.de.ubi.com/?vid=601


The new screens:

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/2.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/3.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/4.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/5.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/6.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/7.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/8.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...nter5/DE/9.jpg

http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/game...ter5/DE/10.jpg

That video certainly looks good!:rock: