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keltos01 09-01-09 02:51 AM

quote=Deamon

Good one mate :up:

Ok I checked your thread and that on the Narwahl. I am impressed!!!
thanks ;)
Boy you came around in the mean while! You seem to be really pationate and seem to have a long breath. A rare quality! I had a good time to check out the japanese u-boat monstrosities and a fair job on the Narwhal :up:
There are still some stuff to come, like the Sen Taka (I-201) but as they have a really short range they won't be included in the IJN camapign beta 1.

I tried, months ago, to catch a task force out of San Diego with the Jyunsen B... it's waaay harder to catch a carrier task force when you've spotted them as it is a merchantman... they are fast !
Can I maybe have an autograph, Sir ? :D
:har:

Hitman must be loving you now.
:oops::haha:


I wasn't quite counting but how many boats have you made so far ?
pfew ! dunno, a few, but f.i. the Class T british sub has Ju_88's 3D model, the rest I did, the Kaichu is Mikhayl's typ 2, otherwise I'd say Ko Hyoteki, Kaidai 3B, Kaidai 4, Jyunsen B, Type C2, Type AM, Sen Toku (model is stock), Narwhal, maybe I forgot one or the other, there was also an early IJN sub with an ugly tower etc...

For how long are you modeling already and how long will your projects still go on ?
I started when I joined in Feb 2008 and have been working on a few mods other than subs and the IJN camapign like the IJN torpedoes etc...

I haven't really played since I started modding ;) but I love it, to get those subs to move and breathe, I just love it ! I will continue till the IJN add on is finished (but there are always improvements to be made) and the Narwhal, and maybe the WWI mod. I don't really know how long, I'm not bored with it yet, more like addicted really !
BTW: The I-1 is actually a direct 1:1 copy of SMU-139 ;)
I knew that ;) as the Narwhal is a copy of the U-Cruisers !

Ok, I will see then.
good.

I guess I told you too much then already, lol. :D
:har:
And while you are at it you can also add the MAD cables in the german bays.

:o

It is amazing what was already available in WWI.
I agree !

keltos

keltos01 09-01-09 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427 (Post 1163197)
I got two of the larger U-boot bases in WWI, Zeebrugge and Ostende. getting an eBook about them as we speak, about the raids that is.

EDIT: Keltos, you are so lucky that you can go and do things like that. I'm stuck in the Midwest taking college courses that are barely paid for, and although I have a love for the sea, I only get about 3-9 days a year to truly swim in the atlantic. No boating, just crabbing :D

I might be able to squeeze some info out of the War Museum in Brussels and the Zeebrugge Museum too.

@Sledgehammer427 : well, I'm an archarologist and a diver, do the math ;) but yeah, it's cool !

iambecomelife 09-01-09 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon (Post 1163177)
What cruisers ? :hmm2:

If you want the right sub at the right time you can already forget about the Project 50. Right after its keel laying the war was over. Then it was immediately scuttled and the plans destroyed.

If you intend to include U-139 and want to be historically correct then the player will get to make only one patrol with it and the war is over!

When you include the armed U-Deutschland then things look good, then the player have more then 1,5 years of action with it.

So the main action are the fleet and coastile boats.

I will check out if I can come up with info on the flotillas. What theatres are you intending to cover ?


For now I am doing just the North Sea, Channel, Eastern Atlantic, and the Arctic. I didn't want to throw in operations off the US Coast and in the Med just yet.

Sledgehammer427 09-02-09 03:17 AM

I'm having a problem with the U-cruiser.
I have the hull practically complete, but I can't cut out the torpedo tubes.
Keltos, If I send you this sub can you finish it? the modelling, I mean, I can work up the textures and fun stuff like that later

GerritJ9 09-02-09 03:31 AM

Re U-Boot interiors: the very first U-Boot, U-1, is preserved at the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Sections of the hull have been cut away so the interior can be viewed and I have a photo in a book somewhere taken at the museum which I could scan (once I find it that is). Otherwise perhaps some of our German forum members have been to the museum and have photos available. They could be used for detailing the interiors of the earliest U-Boote such as U-9.

Highbury 09-02-09 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife (Post 1163166)
Now that work has begun on both U-cruisers and small coastal boats we really need the medium sized boats I listed - they were the backbone of the war effort, even though players will probably crave the huge U-cruisers.

I think you forget the old SHIII thread about people who loved and only used Type IIs. In SH4 there is a similar following for the Sugar Boats. I am sure the coastal and medium sized boats will be very much appreciated by alot of people. (Like me!!)

The post above mine did make me wonder however.. what are you guys planning for interiors?

iambecomelife 09-02-09 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highbury (Post 1164035)
I think you forget the old SHIII thread about people who loved and only used Type IIs. In SH4 there is a similar following for the Sugar Boats. I am sure the coastal and medium sized boats will be very much appreciated by alot of people. (Like me!!)

The post above mine did make me wonder however.. what are you guys planning for interiors?

My mod proposal indicates that SH4 interiors with appropriate modifications (no radar, hydrophones, etc) will be used, unless someone volunteers do do detailed interior work.

Historically correct uniforms & decor will be provided.

keltos01 09-02-09 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427 (Post 1164016)
I'm having a problem with the U-cruiser.
I have the hull practically complete, but I can't cut out the torpedo tubes.
Keltos, If I send you this sub can you finish it? the modelling, I mean, I can work up the textures and fun stuff like that later


yeah ... send it over ;) !

btw: easier to cut out with solids than meshes but I can do both.

keltos

keltos01 09-06-09 11:33 AM

any news ?

keltos

Hitman 09-06-09 02:28 PM

Quote:

My mod proposal indicates that SH4 interiors with appropriate modifications (no radar, hydrophones, etc) will be used, unless someone volunteers do do detailed interior work.
I have seen some pictures of interiors of WW1 submarines, and the Type II is quite similar -very cramped and with the "oldest" look of all. You should be able to create a good generic interior for all U-Boats using just the Type II :yep:

iambecomelife 09-06-09 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01 (Post 1167272)
any news ?

keltos


Nothing screenshot-worthy - however, a lot of vital work is being done, particularly in the area of merchant ship design.

iambecomelife 09-06-09 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1167381)
I have seen some pictures of interiors of WW1 submarines, and the Type II is quite similar -very cramped and with the "oldest" look of all. You should be able to create a good generic interior for all U-Boats using just the Type II :yep:

Thanks - that sounds like a good idea. I would like to try modeling additional areas like crews' quarters & torpedo rooms but it's best to keep the interior work to a minimum for now.

keltos01 09-06-09 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1167381)
I have seen some pictures of interiors of WW1 submarines, and the Type II is quite similar -very cramped and with the "oldest" look of all. You should be able to create a good generic interior for all U-Boats using just the Type II :yep:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4...nrotcover3.jpg


http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1...nrotcover2.jpg


I can post pictures of "Morgenrot", a 1933 movie filmed in a WWI Uboot, kindo a good early Das Boot.

then you'll see the inside.

keltos

iambecomelife 09-06-09 04:28 PM

Do you know how to convert the Type II interior so that it works in SH4?

Sledgehammer427 09-06-09 07:01 PM

you could always ask mikhayl if you can use his :D

iambecomelife 09-06-09 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427 (Post 1167483)
you could always ask mikhayl if you can use his :D


That's great news - someone else has don all that hard work for me.:rotfl:

Some WIP pix of an "M" class British destroyer next to a small civilian cargo ship. Note how the cargo ship has a less streamlined hull form and a deeper draft.

I want to add more details to the merchant models like real crews' quarters, 3d cargo holds, boilers, &c. It's all a matter of how much detail the game can handle.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d5...elife/Col1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d5...elife/col2.jpg

Sledgehammer427 09-06-09 10:24 PM

Sweet, time to put up a couple of my own :D

The (basically) done U-cruiser
http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/o...gehammer54.jpg
Tower Close-up
http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/o...gehammer55.jpg

now to send it over to keltos to cut out the tubes!

iambecomelife 09-07-09 12:00 AM

Nice progress. Maybe we can get away with using the Type IX interior for it, since it's so much larger than the other boats.

keltos01 09-07-09 12:37 AM

Morgenrot :

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/290/morgenrotcover4.jpg



I had Mikhayl's go ahead to use his Typ II for the IJN campaign, so I hope he'll donate it to the WWI mod too, with due credits of course.

I can post other pictures from Morgenrot tonight, as it was filmed inside a german WWI Uboot, I think it's a must have.

@SH427 : send it over !

keltos

Sledgehammer427 09-07-09 01:52 AM

Sent you that model kelt:yeah:


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