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Philipp_Thomsen 12-19-08 11:18 AM

Yeah, great words indeed.

You know, the only thing I really fear is men itself.

It's easier for men to cause me harm than nature.

Elektranaut 12-19-08 07:49 PM

Good Luck Thompsen.Back in 1999 I too downed tools and hit the road,from England right across the States,pacific islands,New Zealand,Australia,Far East,India...man what an experience!I have memories which are priceless.I agree with you,the planet is going to hell so see it before its all gone up in flames.

Sniper_Fox 12-19-08 07:56 PM

Quite true, I too want to go on a large tour of the world. By boat though. I want to see pretty much every port this world has to offer.

Then sleep with the many many different ladies each port has to offer! :arrgh!:

As long as I don't have such an ugly mug like the guy in my picture on the left I should not have too much of a problem with that! ha ha ha!

Madox58 12-19-08 08:20 PM

It's not what you say that matters.
It's not how you look that matters.

It's what you do that matters.

I've seen many people fail
because they could not do what they said they would.

Mostly, they failed because of fear.
It's easier to say something is to hard or whatever,
then to face those fears and plow through them.

PT
You want to walk the World?
Then do it.
On your journey be aware!
Many things will happen!
It will be the measure of you.

Only you can determine your mark.
And if at some point you turn around and go home?
At that time you'll understand.

Gods Speed Mate!
And may all be good!

Task Force 12-19-08 08:30 PM

Yea, just be careful. And never say never!!!:up:

Seeing the world by boat would be something Id like to do.:yep: Everyday something different (depending on how you think about it.) The ocean is always throwing up a new challenge.

Wildhawke11 12-19-08 09:00 PM

Good luck Philipp.
You have been like a breath of fresh air here at the forum. Hope you find the Holy Grail you seem to be looking for. By the way, forget retiring to Scotland unless you are a cold weather lover, and remember the grass always looks greener on the other side old buddy.

Philipp_Thomsen 12-20-08 12:27 AM

I agree with you Privateer.

I have always been much more curious than cautious.
Since a kid, I always ended up screwing myself badly sometimes, just for curiosity.
That never changed. And you know what? If fitted me pretty good. I regret nothing.
And I'm sure I'll regret if I don't go.
I'm not the kind of guy that gives up when the first thing goes wrong.
I believe that each thing, good or bad, will teach you something.

What I really want is to become a writter.
And by joining an adventure and crazy life like this, I'm sure I'll have plenty of stuff to write down.

Solidfart 12-20-08 09:07 AM

I've never regretted things I did but I regret lot of things I never had courage to do. If you feel like this is something you have to do then go for it. Godspeed!

Rebel 12-20-08 10:01 AM

Life Is A Game
 
Hun . How You Play The Game ? How You Live In Life ? Life Is A Game. Warning You Are Who You Pretend To Be.

Letum 12-20-08 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl
So, you want to "get away from the system" and the first thing you do is to go tell all about it on the internet :doh:

More like the last thing. You know how long he has been planning this.

onelifecrisis 12-20-08 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl
So, you want to "get away from the system" and the first thing you do is to go tell all about it on the internet :doh:

More like the last thing. You know how long he has been planning this.

You're both right.
Telling us about it was the first and last thing he did.
Oh, and it was the middle thing too.
And the thing just after the first thing.
And wasn't it also what he did just before the last thing?
But there was something else he did too... somewhere in there, somewhere between the first thing and the last thing I'm sure I do remember him doing something other than telling us about it...

VikingGrandad 12-22-08 12:22 PM

PT, I've not tried what you're about to try (and probably never will) but I understand your need to escape, explore and discover. You need a fresh perspective!

So I hope you discover a place in the world that feels comfortable and right. I hope you find a way to channel your creativity - whether it be writing, or something else - and that your work rewards you and others.

And I hope you meet someone to share things with, as I believe there is nothing to make the soul happier than sharing good things with a soul-mate.

I'm lucky. I have these things, except maybe the place, but that's enough for me!

Good luck and good hunting! :up:

Philipp_Thomsen 12-22-08 08:20 PM

I have lived through much, and now I think I have found what is needed for happiness. A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people whom it is easy to do good, and who are not accustomed to have it done to them; then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbor - such is my idea of happiness.

SeaWolf U-57 12-23-08 06:15 AM

Your threads are like those really bad pop songs they just never go away ….:lol:
Did you use to watch a program on the tv called the little house on the prairie or some such rubbish :hmm:

ssconvert 12-23-08 07:07 AM

Sorry to hear your going Thommo. Loved your mods.
It is important you answer your inner call for more life experience. Do it now, you dont want an eternity of regret.

All the best on your travels.
And if you get to Scotland, try and get to Rob Roys grave in Balquhidder Kirk in Loch Lomond. On his gravestone : Despite them.

Dronston 12-24-08 05:18 AM

Just remember Thompson: you are part of society and society is part of you. Where ever you go you can never escape yourself so it is inner peace you should strive for. This is an internal process you can have anywhere!

However, it is a great idea to travel while you are young and it will give you experiences and memories for the rest of your live. You should make that journey, just try to leave those desperate (and adolescent romantic) emotions behind. Travel but don't run away.
Hopefully you will learn that all is relative and it is completely up to you how you define the world and yourself.

The world ending in chaos in 50 years is just a theory like many other theories.
One could also say mankind is going through puberty, we are making mistakes but in the end we need to make them to understand what is the right way to preserve the world and ourselves.

Best of luck to you and don't end up like that guy in "into the wild".

Contact 12-24-08 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronston
Just remember Thompson: you are part of society and society is part of you. Where ever you go you can never escape yourself so it is inner peace you should strive for. This is an internal process you can have anywhere!

However, it is a great idea to travel while you are young and it will give you experiences and memories for the rest of your live. You should make that journey, just try to leave those desperate (and adolescent romantic) emotions behind. Travel but don't run away.
Hopefully you will learn that all is relative and it is completely up to you how you define the world and yourself.

The world ending in chaos in 50 years is just a theory like many other theories.
One could also say mankind is going through puberty, we are making mistakes but in the end we need to make them to understand what is the right way to preserve the world and ourselves.

Best of luck to you and don't end up like that guy in "into the wild".

It's the very same thing I tried to explain him. But he always tries to protect himself by closing eyes on this and making fun of it just to avoid being figured out whats hidding beneath it. :shifty:

Philipp_Thomsen 12-24-08 08:16 AM

It's not like that. I'm much more open-minded then it looks.

Think like this. In 1920, the world had 1 billion people. Now, 2008, we are approaching 7 billion. Consider this outrageous increase in population in this short time. Now, don't forget, this is exponencial: the more people, more people. 2 rats give birth to 4 rats each, to it's 8 rats. But 8 rats giving birth to 4 rats each, that's 32.

In 2050 we will be surpassing 12 billion people, and I tell you what: this planet with 12 billion people is going to be hell. Unemployiment hitting records, hunger, misery, pollution. Most people will be living in garbage. And the temperatures? In 2050, both poles will be ice-free. The equatorial line will be a total desert, inhabitable, super-hot. The consequences? The natural disasters? Have you any idea?

All this is not fictional. It's not "just another theory" like you're saying. This is DATA! This is cientifically proof. If no actions will be taken and people continue to procriate like rats, all above is going to happen, and much more.

Most people (if not all) don't even believe that. I'm sorry, you'll judge me badly here talking like this, but it's just the way I believe: people crapping in their own plate, thinking that some divine providence will fortuitously save them from disaster, selfishly thinking that someone, some organization, the government maybe, should take care of it for them, after all they are all too busy taking care of their own nose, that there's no time to stop and think about it, help in any way. "Screw it", people think... "I'll not be here anymore when the planet starts to collapse, so why should I care?". Well, big news! It's going to be hell shortly, and you'll be here to pay the price.

Eintein was right... "There are two things that are infinite: the universe, and the infinite human stupidity... And I'm not sure about the universe."

I'm not having any kids of my own. Doing so, it's less people to make the world even worse. And I'm jumping in the wild, so I'm not producing 1% of the artificial garbage the rest of the people are doing. That's pretty much all I can do to help, as a single individual. But what f*cking difference does that do, if all the other 6,99 billion people are crapping around as much as they can?

Now, what do you do?

I'll tell what you'll do. You will forget all that you've just read, believing blindly that it's all fictional, believing that you're living in a solid environment that will sustain the good quality of life you have, 100% free, doesn't matter what you do. You'll keep on with your life, and little by little it will get worse and worse, but you'll not notice it, cos each passing day you'll get used to the fact that the world is crappy just like it is, and has been since you borned. You have your television and your internet to distract you, as you ill. Flawless.

But wonder... how better was the world when you were a kid? Exponenciate this same amount of time to the future, worsening, and you might get a clue.

Now you think I'm too concearned about it and I should kick back and relax, like all the other people you see on your television. And the only reason you think that way is because you see no one except me worring about it. So the majority wins, and I'm wrong.

Blind nation guided by the media.

Dronston 12-24-08 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
It's not like that. I'm much more open-minded then it looks.

Think like this. In 1920, the world had 1 billion people. Now, 2008, we are approaching 7 billion. Consider this outrageous increase in population in this short time. Now, don't forget, this is exponencial: the more people, more people. 2 rats give birth to 4 rats each, to it's 8 rats. But 8 rats giving birth to 4 rats each, that's 32.

In 2050 we will be surpassing 12 billion people, and I tell you what: this planet with 12 billion people is going to be hell. Unemployiment hitting records, hunger, misery, pollution. Most people will be living in garbage. And the temperatures? In 2050, both poles will be ice-free. The equatorial line will be a total desert, inhabitable, super-hot. The consequences? The natural disasters? Have you any idea?

All this is not fictional. It's not "just another theory" like you're saying. This is DATA! This is cientifically proof. If no actions will be taken and people continue to procriate like rats, all above is going to happen, and much more.

Most people (if not all) don't even believe that. I'm sorry, you'll judge me badly here talking like this, but it's just the way I believe: people crapping in their own plate, thinking that some divine providence will fortuitously save them from disaster, selfishly thinking that someone, some organization, the government maybe, should take care of it for them, after all they are all too busy taking care of their own nose, that there's no time to stop and think about it, help in any way. "Screw it", people think... "I'll not be here anymore when the planet starts to collapse, so why should I care?". Well, big news! It's going to be hell shortly, and you'll be here to pay the price.

Eintein was right... "There are two things that are infinite: the universe, and the infinite human stupidity... And I'm not sure about the universe."

I'm not having any kids of my own. Doing so, it's less people to make the world even worse. And I'm jumping in the wild, so I'm not producing 1% of the artificial garbage the rest of the people are doing. That's pretty much all I can do to help, as a single individual. But what f*cking difference does that do, if all the other 6,99 billion people are crapping around as much as they can?

Now, what do you do?

I'll tell what you'll do. You will forget all that you've just read, believing blindly that it's all fictional, believing that you're living in a solid environment that will sustain the good quality of life you have, 100% free, doesn't matter what you do. You'll keep on with your life, and little by little it will get worse and worse, but you'll not notice it, cos each passing day you'll get used to the fact that the world is crappy just like it is, and has been since you borned. You have your television and your internet to distract you, as you ill. Flawless.

But wonder... how better was the world when you were a kid? Exponenciate this same amount of time to the future, worsening, and you might get a clue.

Now you think I'm too concearned about it and I should kick back and relax, like all the other people you see on your television. And the only reason you think that way is because you see no one except me worring about it. So the majority wins, and I'm wrong.

Blind nation guided by the media.

Don't get me wrong, I do respect your choice and I do agree with most you are saying about this world. In an way, I wish I still had your outlook on life as I used to have, it's more simple and everything is categorized.

Quote: "This is cientifically proof".
Mind you: conclusions made from scientific data are always reflecting the expected outcome of the scientist interpreting the data. No scientific "fact" can be considered equal to truth...

But, I have traveled, I have been on the fringes of society AND I have tried to find my role in "normal" society.

Some say; "lead by example".
I think modern society / mankind / earth only have a chance to NOT end in chaos when more people like YOU try to play a responsible role IN society. YOU could actually be someone who helps change "fate" by showing others how to lead their life.

Again, your visions are right, do your travels and gain even more wisdom.
But...all in due time.

Enjoy the walk of life :know:

onelifecrisis 12-24-08 09:19 AM

Alright, that's a valid point, but not a very strong one IMO. I agree that people are generally happier when they have more personal space and there are more resources to go around, but I don't see that either of those are going to be in short supply anytime soon. I live in London (one of the most overcrowded places on the planet) and although I'd like more personal space, I can't say that the lack of it is ruining my life. As for resources, well, most developed countries throw away vast quantities of food every day, and I can't see water ever being much of a problem on a global scale. That just leaves air which, admittedly, has less oxygen and more CO2 every year, but again it's a far cry from "unbreathable". My lungs are screwed (20 cigs a day for 13 years) and I live in a polluted city, but I'm not gasping for breath yet.

But all of that really is beside the point. If you look for what's bad and wrong in the world then you will find it easily. And if you want to believe that things are getting worse then you will find evidence to support that too. You'll find whatever you're looking for.

You say the population has boomed in the last century. True. Also, mankind has set up a global communication network which allows people from all over the world to pass information amongst themselves in seconds. He's setup education systems which have just about everyone on the planet being able to read and write from an early age. He's had (and, importantly, documented in a format that anyone can understand) what will hopefully be the last large-scale conflict of humanity. He's walked on the moon. You seem sad that we're not all zen buddhists already, but you forget that a century ago most of us wouldn't have even known what it was or how to spell it.

Oh and by the way, there are periodic plagues/deseases/viruses which come along once in a while and wipe out large portions of the population. The world is a lot smaller now, metaphorically speaking, so the next time such a virus hits us it'll likely spread worldwide in to time. In case that makes you feel any better. :hmm:


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