Our fathers and grandfathers who either died or luckily survived the war must be ashamed to see how their grandsons still bash each other's countries by digging out stuff that happened before they were even born ... :doh:

I also cannot imagine anything more disgracing than degrading WW2 to some sort of sports event during which "asses are whipped".

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mea culpa mea culpa. you are correct.

This thread has sunk to the level of stupidity what you usually find in youtube comments.

''Germany gave hitler''
''America is responsible for the crisis''
''Germany started both World Wars''
and so on

GOOD JOB

HunterICX

That is not correct. I am sure you do see the differences.

Spelling/grammar on here is better, but the content is not

HunterICX

[quote=August]Of course. Still, a little healthy debate and a respect for other's opinions doesn't hurt the American ideal any, imo:up:

I pray that you are right, but I'll keep my guns, just in case.:D

OH MY GOD.

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wow...do you actually belive the crap you just posted ?

You don't have a god, remember Mr. Atheist?

August, why do you take these snipes at SkyBird if you know that he can't hear you?

Oh he reads my posts often enough, but if you want to make sure he will just quote me. He can't reply unless you do.

This thread is funny in a morbid kind of way. Here we have a typical Euro posting as to the delight of the news that the USA "may not be the dominant power in 20 years". Without thinking this through, or applying any analytical ability to determine whether or not this is a good or bad thing, the OP proceeds to take the same used up opinions (the Chalmers Johnson doomsday type) to apply it as a "prophecy" of his own making. How stupid can this person be??? Honestly, I've lost total faith in the average European to determine what dynamics are good for the world. They have cheered on Obama, probably because Obama will do things which reduce America's economic and military power without even thinkking what impacts may come to Europe as a result and our alliances. Europe is drowning in an exploding Muslim population, and has Russia becoming ever more aggressive to their East. The Euro's have an energy imbalance and without US support.....no leverage at all. Yet, the Euro's cannot even see that they may come to hate what an Obama administration could mean to their own security. While Russia moves missiles Westward, Obama is talking about American disarmament. The Iranians are continuing the Shahab 3 program and their nuclear (civilian???) program and Obama wants to "talk without pre-conditions". China continues it's ballistic missile growth in the Far East, Obama is on the path to dismantle the sea based BMD programs. And the list goes on...... Without thinking consequences, the Euros have been cheering on potential dangers in their own midst. I take this report with a total grain of salt though because like TDK1044 says in an earlier post, America's strength lies in it's ability to change dynamically. A very insightful statement.

What I'm very interested in is knowing who the OP would feel would be a greater alternative to America as "dominant power". China and their gross human rights abuses? Russia with their totalitarian and chaotic mindset? Who?

muppets

Like I said, I've lost total faith in the ability of the average European to determine what dynamics are good for the world. Your lame answer only solidifies my opinion of this further.

ha ha ha good one yeh. Read my post number 51 in this thread and you'll realise what i was talking about u arrogant twat:nope:

Besides what the hell has this to do with Obama????

We all love the French. Fakt.

Na..

OK. I thought you were just being a hostile smart-a@@. Sorry about that. :oops: Anyway, I still feel sorry for the people of Europe who still do have some common sense over there, and can think beyond the first dimension of their wishes. The fact that Europe so heavily favored Mr. Obama, in the face of so many potential threats, shows me that many people over there simply don't have the ability to propagate consequences, and may not be able to understand how it could be a big negative to their future security. The OP clearly has his head buried in the sand over the issue of the USA losing influence and power. And it inspires a vote of no confidence from me. Whether or not the USA loses the dominant position in 20 years remains to be seen. And whether it's good or not, for both us and you is simply not being thought out. People like the OP in euroland are simply driven by a narrow irrational contempt.

And the USA losing the dominant position or not has everything to do with who's leading it, and who we elect in the Congress..

Ever seen the movie 'Cabaret'? You'll find that song in it.

The arrogance of a couple of the German posters here is only matched by their ignorance of a Country that they really know nothing about.

America has changed and continues to change at a greater rate than any other Country in the world. The election Of Barack Obama is just one sign of the changes that are to come.

Germany's political rigidity is their real problem, not US foreign policy. If the German people had the courage to make real political changes within their own country, then maybe there would be less ignorance towards other countries....primarily the USA. But if the members here are an example of the average German voter, then they are doomed to continue to take the easy road and blame others for their lot in life.