Save me from hear-say, I talk about that kind of statistic sample criterions by which for example pharmaceutical drug testing decides wether or not a new drug gets licensed for release to the market, or not. That is responsible use of statistics.

I repeat once more:

Do you defend and support Stalin's reputation as described in this, and in your poll, and in your quoted statement, or not. That is no difficult question. But the answer will say a lot about you.

That is just plain wrong.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...assacre_p1.jpg

Anyone else getting flashbacks from 2003 when Comical Ali said "There are no American tanks ins Baghdad"?

I support what was said by Winston Churchill in British Parliament after Stalin's death.

Stalin inherited Russia equipped with a wooden plow,
Stalin bequested Russia equipped with a Hydrogen Bomb.

This is a piece of forgery. This kinda 'document' was once presented to the Russian Constitutional Court and was rejected as a forgery.
Simple like that.
You should know this, ZeroNiner.

Source?

What about this then:

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4102967.stm

But going by your previous posts (not just in this thread) you'll probably claim that it was all a fabrication by Imperialist Western media out to tarnish the good image of the Soviet Union. :roll:

The date of the rejection would be interesting.

I guess, I found one of Bruno's sources..

http://www.stalinsociety.org.uk/katyn.html

People starting an egg-dance when being asked a straight question, usually know that a straight answer would leave them open for attack or criticism, so they try to deceive it. But that way they have given the obvious answer nevertheless.

In my real life I do not tolerate Neonazis, Stalinists, Scientologists, fundamental Islamists and sympathisers and defenders of genocides, mass-killing and totalitarian ideologies, of which all the mentioned terms before are derivates and variations. As a matter of fact I have kicked out such people in my real life on more than one occasion. So why should I tolerate them in the virtual world.

Assuming that you are in no position to do real damage to the world I conclude that it is safe to ignore you. Farewell, and please, do not search for me - i do not wish to have anything more to do with you.

<<In my real life I do not tolerate Neonazis, Stalinists, Scientologists, fundamental Islamists and sympathisers and defenders of genocides, mass-killing and totalitarian ideologies, of which all the mentioned terms before are derivates and variations. As a matter of fact I have kicked such people out on more than one opportunity. So why should I tolerate them in the virtual world. Assuming that you are in no position to do real damage to the world I conclude that it is safe to ignore you. Farewell, and please, do not search me - i do not wish to have anything more to do with you.>>

It's certainly your right.
But it doesn't prove that I am wrong.
And frankly speaking, I am not really afraid of tags.

I still support the choice of Russian people
Stalin, Alexander Nevskiy, Zhukov
http://www.nameofrussia.ru/rating.html

Did you find a reference to that so called 'document' pellted by Zero Niner?
Forgery is forgery. If court says so - please do not show that crap paper to me.

So I suppose this site is all about forged documents?

http://ru_katyn.livejournal.com/tag/...-envelope-aprf

You check out Russian Constitutional court findings on the case of
attemped declaration of Communist party a criminal organization.

One of item of accusations was Katyn and as an evidence the accusing party presented that document.
Court after investigation came to a conclusion that 'document' is just a forgery. Rejected.

It was also discussed in literature. You can check out
Mukhin Katynskiy Detektiv
The author discusses that 'document' in his book and mentions the Constitutional Court findings.

If you can read Russian you can get this book right here
http://lib.aldebaran.ru/author/muhin...skii_detektiv/

Юрий Игнатьевич Мухин
Катынский детектив
(1995 г.)

Or updated and expanded book on all Katyn package by the same author
http://lib.aldebaran.ru/author/muhin...skaya_podlost/

Юрий Игнатьевич Мухин
Антироссийская подлость

So I suppose Mikhail Gorbachev was in actuality a CIA spy, when in 1990 he admitted Soviet involvement in the Katyn massacre, and 2 years later the Russian government handed over official Soviet documents to Lech Walesa showing that your hero Stalin had ordered the execution of the Polish prisoners?

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold...ght/index.html

I don't take blogs as a proof of anything.
Certainly not in the case when there is a Constitutional Court decision.

Who really knows.
But if you check the Name of Russia poll you won't find Gorby there.
He lost hist credit.
Sure, the West loves him - look what he and his crony Shevarnadze did to the Russian state!
But his problem is the Russian people do not.

Gorby did a lot of things.
There was an investigation committee on Katyn and they allegedly compiled evidences
BUT they didn't bring court action!!!

That means as of now all those evidences given to Gorby on bases of which he made
a political statement
DO NOT HOLD WATER for a court.

Most interestingly, I read an article some time ago (in June???) that Poles
lost ?!!!? all those documents handed over by the Soviets.
How come, LOST!!!

Well, I take the word of Mikhail Gorbachev everyday over that of some random guy on an internet forum. :up:

That's irrelevant. Gorbachev's standing amongst Russians is also irrelevant.

You claimed that the Germans were responsible for the Katyn massacre. The sources I've looked at say otherwise. News report also mention that the Soviets admitted that they, and not the Germans, did it. Whether or not the documents exist, or are lost as you claim, doesn't change the fact that the USSR *ADMITTED* that they did it. Whether there was legal action, or a trial or not also doesn't change the fact of admission. The prerogative to prosecute lies within the legal system and there may be reasons why the state decides not to prosecute a crime even after admission of guilt.

Are you now trying to say that the USSR *lied* in 1990. If so, why would they confess to a heinous act when they didn't, in fact, do it?

You cant surpass the official truth with your Western forgeries.