TA is indeed nice, the more unique planet build trees is quite cool imho.

Yep. I just got my butt kicked by it too. Only 3 races left (including me - and from 10 races total - 9 + me). I had an alliance with one that all a sudden had 100 days till accention. Great. Have to go to war with them. I didn't expect to have to fight who they were allined with too - 3 on one. My superior tech kicked many of their ships back to cold space, but there were just too many. I had to try or lose the game, and try as a might, there was no winning against both of them. They had fleets of battleships.

-S

PS. One thing I notice in this one is that no matter how bad ass your diplomacy is, other races don't give up tech too easy anymore. I usually had to trade 2 techs for one this go around in TofA.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Really makes me think about what I want to "give up"...

Great. I just noticed this thread. the reason I hate GalCiv is because everytime I play it I only get about 3 hours sleep :shifty:. Makes me crabby at work the next day (stayed up all d*** night just to lose :nope: )!

I may have to pick up TA. Haven't checked that out yet.

Impressive vitory Subman--winning with negative income :hmm:!

That would be much more hard to accomplish in TofA. No one gives up tech in TofA without you giving up 2x more!

-S

Yep. Makes Super diplomacy much less valuable than it once was. Matter of fact, it killed it. No reason to have it anymore. Play balance feels a little screwed up this way. Old way was slightly better.

-S

I have GC2 but never got the last expansion. However, since your enjoyed GC, have any of you tried Sins? (Sins of a Solar Empire)

I have it - and its amazing how Stardock took some of the most successful things OUT in Sins - and its still a dang good game. The tech tree is WAY smaller, there is no ship building/configuration - travel is limited to jump lanes - but its still bloody addictive.

Yes - MoO2 was one of the best. MoO 3 I have to admit I was dissapointed in. It has potential, but it really was a step back in so many ways.....

If you enjoyed the free form play of MoO2 - then another old but good one is Imperium Galactica 2. I still have my copy and it runs fine on XP or Vista provided you get the 1.08 compatibility update.

I've currently got the universe in my grip! You can't win the old fashioned way of building and then conquering the AI, so the other empires must be dealt with accordingly.

How to win? Diplomacy has come to save me in that once again. Make everyone fight everyone but you! for a few bc (I'm guessing about 1500), any alien empire can be made to fight another! If one race starts to lose against another, you can't let that other race get too powerful! So you give away some high tech ships to even the score! This way, you are not giving that race tech to built such bas ass ships, but you are given them the capability to use them! This keeps them weak when it comes their turn for conquering!

I've got this game down pat. I went from nearly last militarily to first now by a large margin, last economically, last production, last everything except research. I am now first in all! My win is in sight! I think I will win militarily now since every race is now severely weakened.

Great game. Thought I couldn't fight my way out of this one until I screwed things up for everyone but myself behind the scenes! Few other games capture this magic!

-S

This is the way I like my galaxy! In turmoil! Everyone who is left is fighting everyone! This not only prevents Alliances, but it keeps them angry at each other! I am the Terran Alliance on top. Only fighting one race and I am slowly taking over their worlds to add to my empire!

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2814/gctz3.jpg




Here is the military picture. I am off the charts now when I thought I didn't have a chance in hell before!

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7990/gc2ql5.jpg

Oki,

now you got me in. Just ordered the Gold Edition for around 7 € at Amazon marketplace. I loved Master of Orion and Civ IV so I think I`ll like this one aswell.

Greets

Z.

I picked up GC2 on Friday and am about to pull my hair out.

What am I missing guys? I cannot build ships larger than a defender playing the Terran side. I have to be missing something obvious but I can't figure it out to save my empire! LOL

What do I have to do to be able to build larger, stronger ships- I am being killed in every game and I still haven't figured it out.

I thought it would have been medium hulls on the tech tree, but no dice.

PLEASE HELP!!! :huh:

Start researching hull size. Doesn't matter much though at you stage since the enemy won't have the tech to build anything better than you if you manage it right.

I doubt another race will sell you hull size upgrades too. They horde it for themselves. You will have to reasearch it on your own.

Small is what you have. Medium is next.

-S

BTW guys, StarDock has the first beta for GC2 2.0 out and available. It mostly affects Twilight but fixes some stuff in Dark Avatar as well... You'll need Impulse to install it.

To save you some hair pulling (providing you have Impulse running correctly already) you'll need to click on the blue StarDock icon in the upper LH corner and then click the "Show prerelease versions" checkbox. That way, the updates will show up in the "Updates" tab and you can choose to install them.

I researched to "medium hulls" and it says that several new ships would be available but all of them require atleast one new technology- it doesn't say what new technology that might be but on some of the ships it said more than one technology would be need with a not about miniaturization being one.

I am still unable to build anything other than a freighter (from the trade technology) and small ships like the defender- nothing else. This is why I have lost every time I've played. Every other race seems to be building frigates, corvettes, etc~ I'm stuck with patrol craft!

Could be an enjoyable game, but looks destined for file 13...

Any help is appreciated.

You need other techs to get 'pre-designed' canned ships. Nothing is stopping you from designing your own bigger ships. I don't think I ever used a canned ship in the entire game. Always too limited.

-S

I went ahead and designed my own- I had thought that their would have been some stock ships of the larger variety.

Thanks for the help.

No problem man. Even at the behinning of the game, you can build better ships than the canned ships. You can build cheaper colony transports (Think mass production instead of ship speed and you can save a bundle on resources and time to construct and get more transports to colonize more planets 3x as fast).

How about survey ships to analyze those rocks floating around? I built a ship small in size and had 3x of the fastest engines you could research - it covered 25 to 30 spaces in one turn, and usually surveyed two to three rocks in any given turn, increasing my abilities each time.

Just think what you want to accomplish and build a specialized ship for it. A few posts back, you can see I built a ship to take on the Dread Lords - basically send them packing, though it wasn't designed to survive the actual battle. It sent the Dread Lords cruiser packing for over 2 years time though so I had little worry about them doing me harm.

Just think outside the box - and you will win.

-S

The concept of "pirates" is fine, but to have hundreds of them appear all across the galaxy- all at once and most of them equipped with state of the art weapons (black hole eruptor) is stretching things past the breaking point.

These pirates just appeared out of the blue and instantly became the highest rated military in the galaxy. My nilitary is unable to deal with this! There are so many of them that building any type of a fleet capable of responding is impossible. These guys are everywhere, attacking everything at once.

Wow.

Amazon just dispatched my copy of the 'Ultimate Edition'. That will do nicely for X-mas i think. I can't believe that this game pretty much past me by for so long. Looking forward to playing it.

Installed it last night to have a quick look see and ended up playing for 4 hours. It looks like a keeper. I can't believe I haven't bought it before now.