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bookworm_020 03-12-08 01:44 AM

Thanks to the guys from the movie for comming on board to tell us what's happening.:rock:
It put alot of fears to bed to know that you will be trying to stay in historical lines. :up:We just in fear of some sad knockoff that was OTT!:yep:

DavyJonesFootlocker 03-12-08 07:59 AM

I'll reserve my judgement until I see it. I think that's fair enough.:yep:

Carl Lyons 03-14-08 02:50 PM

USS Drum Model
 
Gentlemen,

Is anyone aware of anyone who could build a 20' working model of the USS Drum. We need it for under water and over head shots. We've got the ability to do great CGI. But we'd rather use a model. I still think the original Star Wars models beat any CGI to date.


Let me know.

CL
USS Seaviper Movie

M. Sarsfield 03-14-08 02:54 PM

There are some pretty good model builders that post in the Movies and Models forum on this site. Give them a try. What time frame would you be looking to get the model in?

Out of curiosity, will the model be filmed under water or will you use the oil smoke trick like they did for Hunt for Red October?

Carl Lyons 03-14-08 03:20 PM

Drum Model
 
We would be shooting underwater in 4K. We are having a housing built for the RED One Camera now. We think 20' is about the smallest vessel that will allow realistic displacement of water. If we are able to do this. Nobody else on the planet would have believable ww2 sub footage in 4k that I am aware of. That's pretty amazing. Whatever we do, it's got to be believable.

CL
Seaviper

Sailor Steve 03-14-08 04:34 PM

I have a lot of years building smaller models, including one of the Boeing 299 (the original prototype B-17) that has lived at the Hill AFB Air & Space museum since 1990. I would love to have a chance to be part of a project of this scale. Unfortunately, I:

1) Have no way of getting to Alabama from Utah, and

2) No way of supporting myself while I was there

Maybe next time.:oops: :cry:

Doolittle81 03-15-08 07:15 PM

@ Carl Lyons!!

Welcome to the Sub Forums...a Free source for advisors/consultants, all full of enthusiasm.

Did you get my PM (Private Message) with some recommendations on how to get authentic WWII era dialog, terminology, Submarine procedures, etc? That will be Key to providing authenticity in your movie. Often it is the use of a term, in aviation flicks, such as "Lock On" before that term had ever been 'used/created' in real life, which immediately destroys a Korean or WWII era movie's credibility.

The resource I recommended in my PM would be extremely useful to you and your Screenwriter, in that regard. Even a recent retiree from the USN, born in, say, the early 1960's is unlikely to be expert on the language/terminology/slang/procedural steps employed in submarine tactics/life in the 1930's/1940's.

Looking forward to a great movie from you and your Crew.

Carl Lyons 03-16-08 12:49 PM

PM Doolittle/ Seaviper
 
I did receive it. Thank u. I have passed it on to our writer. We are also working with Tom Bowser on the USS Drum who is a retired Sub Vet and is refurbing the Drum. At our request Tom is literally standing over our shoulder to make sure this is as believable as possible. We'll definitely give this material a look we need all the info we can get our hands on.

Kind Regards,
CL
Seaviper Film & Drum Doc

Carl Lyons 03-22-08 01:06 AM

Seaviper
 
Gentlemen,

We had a great production meeting on the 20th. Will be headed for Mobile to begin shooting for the feature on the 24th of April. We'll keep you posted.

CL
Seaviper Movie and Drum Doc

snakeyez 03-22-08 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Lyons
Gentlemen,

We had a great production meeting on the 20th. Will be headed for Mobile to begin shooting for the feature on the 24th of April. We'll keep you posted.

CL
Seaviper Movie and Drum Doc

Wonderful! Maybe I can run down there and throw up some shadow puppets in the background of a couple of scenes. LOL

Seriously, I hope things roll smoothly for you guys.

kikn79 03-24-08 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Lyons
Gentlemen,

Is anyone aware of anyone who could build a 20' working model of the USS Drum. We need it for under water and over head shots. We've got the ability to do great CGI. But we'd rather use a model. I still think the original Star Wars models beat any CGI to date.


Let me know.

CL
USS Seaviper Movie

There was an EBAY auction of the sub built for the SH4 commercial/episodic film "Subsessed" You might try and track down the person that won the auction...

Chuck

Machineit 03-24-08 09:51 AM

Thanks for the tip, but that sub was made out of Styrofoam. Getting it under water would be a bitch!:lol:

We are most likely going with CGI. Can probably be more realistic looking than even shooting underwater with a model.

Thanks Again!

Doolittle81 03-24-08 01:52 PM

If you were producing a movie only for DVD release, you could probably have simply used SH4 to produce all your external scenes...submerged or surfaced (where you don't need closeups of humans). No need for expensive CGI. I say this based upon having watched History Channel's "Dogfight" series in which the CGI is not much better, if at all, than the 2001 vintage IL2/Forgotten Battles Flight Simulation.

Well, maybe PC graphics aren't quite there yet, but in another year or two they might be giving mainstream Hollywood CGI studios a run for the money.

Machineit 03-24-08 04:02 PM

What we have access to will be great. No straight to DVD stuff. :D Expensive, but great!

Thanks

Mav87th 03-24-08 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody34
Besides Schindler's List name one american WWII movie that was actually a good movie? I'll watch Das Boot for the 100th time.

Empire of the Sun - http://imdb.com/title/tt0092965/

The Bridge on the River Kwai - http://imdb.com/title/tt0050212/

Letters from Iwo Jima - http://imdb.com/title/tt0498380/

Patton - http://imdb.com/title/tt0066206/

Ducimus 03-24-08 06:27 PM

I think any whines or complaints on the film are a moot. You all know your going to watch it anyway. Its a Sub movie, period. Thats all it takes for this crowd! Sure they'll be whining afterward, and even if it turns out to be a big flop, you'll secretly going to buy the DVD anyway - just like im wagering most of us did with u-571. I think we all own it, but few will fess up to it! :lol:

Captain Vlad 03-25-08 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus
Its a Sub movie, period. Thats all it takes for this crowd! Sure they'll be whining afterward, and even if it turns out to be a big flop, you'll secretly going to buy the DVD anyway.

See it? You betcha.

Buy it? Erm...that really does depend.

Quote:

- just like im wagering most of us did with u-571. I think we all own it, but few will fess up to it! :lol:
I don't own it, for, while I hated the movie, it was instrumental in avoiding a variety of 'chick flicks' an ex wanted to watch. They all starred Matthew McConaughey, and I convinced her I bore him a grudge due to U-571. Buying the DVD would've torpedoed that story, and I'd have been forced to watch 'How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days'.

DavyJonesFootlocker 03-25-08 08:09 AM

Ha! I didn't buy U-571 or even rented it. It showed up on cable and I yawned myself into a coma. I'm a budding 3D Modeler/Animator and History Cannel's Dogfights series is good enough- not great mind you.

gimpy117 03-25-08 10:58 PM

cool guys i say more power too ya!!
I'd much rather see a movie come together via a community rather than have soem big company come in and make a move with no accuracy at all (*cough*Below)

anyways, keep it up i look foward to this one!

DavyJonesFootlocker 03-26-08 08:00 AM

Below wasn't so bad as some say. You gotta hand it to them a Horror/War film. First time I saw one.


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