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XabbaRus 10-09-07 01:27 PM

definately a mic is a must, you hear dowly ;)

Also we need to be on the server at the same time and make our selections at the same time so we can form up over the air field.

HunterICX 10-09-07 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
definately a mic is a must, you hear dowly ;)

Also we need to be on the server at the same time and make our selections at the same time so we can form up over the air field.

:yep: Agreed, get a mic dowly (already said 1000x times before)
it would improve the Teamwork greatly ;)

NiclDoe 10-09-07 05:58 PM

I dont think you will understand the mouth of a Finnish Ferret. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

AFRIKAKORPS 10-09-07 08:46 PM

I wish we had the La-7 to use, its my best aircraft. I'm trying to get the hang of the 109, but it feels like its fighting me on turns compared to the silky smoothness of the La-7.
Anyone here good with the 109 want to give me some advice on how to use this brick properly:hmm:?

Dowly 10-10-07 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AFRIKAKORPS
I wish we had the La-7 to use, its my best aircraft. I'm trying to get the hang of the 109, but it feels like its fighting me on turns compared to the silky smoothness of the La-7.
Anyone here good with the 109 want to give me some advice on how to use this brick properly:hmm:?

That's what we are trying to do... master the 109. It's turn time is ~22-24 seconds, whereas the spit has under 20. So turning fight is out of question.

NiclDoe 10-10-07 06:14 AM

Bernard can turn it on a dime but have to crash it after the turn.

XabbaRus 10-10-07 03:10 PM

I am looking forward to going to red side for next Tod. Then I will get my trusty beaufighter.

Dowly 10-10-07 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
I am looking forward to going to red side for next Tod. Then I will get my trusty beaufighter.

Cant wait!

Fecking wankers took away the Fiat G50. Now we have only the 109s that cant do crap against the Spitfires. The F2 variant has a change, having the best turn speed of <20sec, but it lacks the stopping power. :shifty:

Ubergeek87 10-10-07 04:46 PM

There is some pretty good info on 109 strategy --> HERE <-- along with some more basic stuff.

From what I've read, it seems like you're trying to "Turn and Burn" in a "Boom and Zoom" fighter.

Here's a quote from that guide that explains "Boom and Zoom"

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"Boom and Zoom

Boom n’ Zoom is simply using a relative altitude advantage to attack an opponent and then return to a superior position out of danger by Zoom climbing away.

Observing these strengths and weaknesses the 109 can be categorised as a Boom and Zoom fighter. Boom and Zoom is a technique in which the attacking plane relies on an energy advantage (in either speed or altitude) in order to successfully carry out the Boom and Zoom technique. An ideal Boom and Zoom situation is one where YOU, the aggressor happens to be cruising along at an altitude of 3000 metres altitude, and further below you spot a Spitfire cruising at 1000 metres altitude. Because you are higher than the Spitfire, YOU have the advantage! therefore it is YOU who will dictate the fight. So, you decide to engage the Spitfire, you ease into a dive, use throttle as required to manage your airspeed (avoid excessively high airspeeds due to control lockup and structural damage) and scream in behind the Spitfire. You are closing on your target fast and quickly make any last second corrections to ensure a good shot. You pull the triggers, and

1. You score a number of direct hits either destroying or crippling the Spitfire. You then go through to full power and ease back into a climb to regain your altitude

2. You miss completely and zoom right on by the Spitfire, Argh! Don't despair, instead go through to full power, ease back into a climb and regain that altitude. The Spitfire can't hurt you! He doesn't have the energy to climb after you, so once you are well above the Spitfire you can simply try again, you are still in control!

Don't get impatient, resist the temptation to turnfight. Typically it takes me a few passes to knock down an enemy plane, don't get disenheartened if it takes a lot of passes to knock down an enemy plane. It takes practice and you will get better with time! To practice ingame, load up a quick mission with an enemy C47 as your target. Boom and Zoom him to death, he is a nice big target who cruises at about 300 kp/h and will take a fair amount of punishment. Great for refining those skills"
I hope that helps.

HunterICX 10-10-07 04:50 PM

:up:good one ubergeek

READ THAT DOWLY!
NOW STOP RANTING AND TAKE A GOOD USE OF THIS TACTIC:lol:

NiclDoe 10-10-07 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly
Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
I am looking forward to going to red side for next Tod. Then I will get my trusty beaufighter.

Cant wait!

Fecking wankers took away the Fiat G50. Now we have only the 109s that cant do crap against the Spitfires. The F2 variant has a change, having the best turn speed of <20sec, but it lacks the stopping power. :shifty:

Thats becuase your son destroyed them all. :lol:

Kratos 10-10-07 05:43 PM

@ Ubergeek87.. good read there matey, link to forum was a good read as well. http://www.northeastfoto.com/forums/...ies/sign29.gif

Dowly 10-10-07 05:44 PM

OH FFS!

Hunter keeps reminding me of the boom&zoom tactic everytime I rant. So, I give you my usual answer, no, not feck off, but one cant always decide the situation.

For the last time, I KNOW THE FECKING BLANE IS AN E-FIGHTER!!! AAAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :damn: :damn:

:p


PS. And everybody keeps telling how great B&Z is "just dive in and climb". Well, a Spit that has flown uninterrupted level flight has the speed of ~400+ km/h, enough E to climb and to get me in his sights and unleash a short burts, which ALWAYS in my case either cuts my wing or the tail.

PPS. Oh yeh, and I think I found my problem. This fecking joystick. As Hunter knows, the rudder twist is a bit messed on my joystick, so I put some deadband from the settings and now when I turn, my rudder wont turn as much as it used to, resulting in 90% of cases to a stall.

PPPS. Thanks for the link! :)

NiclDoe 10-10-07 07:06 PM

Them 2 always fighting when on teamspeak and WOE. I thought you 2 where friends and now its a war between a ferret and a skilled pilot who is a wise a** sometimes to the ferret.

Dowly 10-10-07 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NiclDoe
Them 2 always fighting when on teamspeak and WOE. I thought you 2 where friends and now its a war between a ferret and a skilled pilot who is a wise a** sometimes to the ferret.

Saw that Hunter? Preserve this moment, how many times someone says that to you? :o

J/k with you mate. :rotfl: :hmm: :yep:

We have this love-hate relationship. :up:

Ubergeek87 10-10-07 07:22 PM

I found another B&Z guide --> HERE <-- that goes into quite a bit more detail on how to "Dive in and climb" without getting peppered by bullets on the way back up. It's not specific to Il-2, but four pages of tactics never hurt anyone (except the other team).

NiclDoe 10-11-07 06:17 AM

One min you both happy the next you guys having an arguement over just a tactic. :doh:

Kratos 10-11-07 06:34 AM

@Dowly ''''we have this love hate relationship '''''

http://www.militaryimages.net/forums...es/14_6_12.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...i/little_1.gif

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Dowly 10-11-07 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NiclDoe
One min you both happy the next you guys having an arguement over just a tactic. :doh:

Noooo, I'm just saying that I KNOW THE BLOODY THING IS AN E-FIGHTER! But I cant always choose who's holding the advantage. ;)

@Ubergeek: Thank you. :up:

@Kratos: LMAO! :rotfl:

XabbaRus 10-11-07 07:16 AM

Ok now we know can we get back to organising a big push for this weekend.

I think saturday evening. So cancel evenings out, put the phone off the hook and send your wives/girlfriends out for the evening.


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