What! over already, I can't believe it.. where is all the fun.
I rushed here as fast as I could only to find a frightening looking ferret and some Grey Wolves with a satisfied smile on their lips, drinking beer!
Nice, just Nice.

Maybe is that,
I do not want to make part of any of this
"War party's" that I think Kpt will only get away people that
can realy do and bring diferent stuff into the game!

However I respect you to much to get in the Oposing side
who ever might be , the problem it's not fully coverd by me
and the part I see is the part I comment!

But it's mi opinion and a subt. sugestion!

If he forgot to ask the first time he surely as done
the request after, I do think he haves to treat this
on the private way via PM, and do think he haves to
understand your position but, I do not think it's a reasenable
thing everyone from the team to jump on him beside you as
the Head of the GWX team...

Do not get me the rong way!

I realy think he asn't done it with rong intention!

All for one, one for all, matey. ;)

I have to agree with JCWolf. As a Supervisor myself it looks bad on your team or your department if others are lashing out on someone when it's the supervisor's job to do so (and in private!). It's even worse if the supervisor doesn't counsel the subordinate that his behavior was unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Kpt. makes it apparent that he is the 'team leader' for the GWX project and thus the supervisor or dept. head of said project. The actions of leaders ultimately define the image of the product presented and that image isn't very colorful at the moment. I would've expected a different reaction from him (and a private one at that). Just my personal observation. :shifty: Nothing more needs to be said.

Move on.......nothing to see here :nope:
Have a :()1: before you go.
Don't go drinking any of that KaustikSoda mind ;)

Nothing stops OLC to do the new interfaces from scratch. 90% of the new stuff in GWX have been build from scratch.

I know it would take a lot longer, but one cant assume when beginning a new mod that uses other mod as the basis, that it's automatically fine with the other mod's devs. There's always the risk, that the other team doesnt give the permission, which was the case here. And one should acknowledge that risk.

And what comes to the 'all against one' thingy, I have only one thing to say: friends are worth defending.

<sigh>

...as if I never urge restraint... or as if I 'hand people their opinion.'

No offense, but you guys really are clueless to what goes on in the background and are making too many assumptions. Nor do I need a lecture on how the GWX shop should be run.:shifty:

I do not incite the crew to act... but I may on occasion open the hatch and let them out when the howling gets too loud in the zentraele. I've got no problem fighting my own battles... but when a friend chooses to stand beside me, I'm not going to tell him to bugger off either. These guys have done a truly MASSIVE amount of work for NO PAY and have a vested interest in the outcome of conversations like these. They also have their own thoughts and convictions.

Leave well enough alone people.

We have a saying in Texas... "Mess with the bull and you'll get the horns."

[sorry about the cross-post Dowly... was not directed at you.]

Hitman, I understand your desire to let the thread die, but I wish to comment on a couple of things and will try to do so in a non-inflammatory way.

What I expect is that grown men can, on occasion, put aside their differences and politely (if briefly) communicate and co-operate for the common good.

I think that there is a difference between respect and humility, and it seems to me that some members of the GWX team call for the former and expect the latter.

Come on!

Do you realy know what does mean,

All for one and One for All ! ???


I am not building a fighting ground here,
thought I'm in trenches most of mi time.:yep:

maybe it's the rong atitude maybe it's called something
else, but for me it is not fair what ever reazon might be in
the back lines to form a warParty or linch group and just
drag a guy over the Plains just cause he made a mistake
driven by is own entusiasm!:hmm:


I do know what means " All for one and One for All !"
and I know most of you know also, but is this guy
worth of such treatment????:hmm:

Do not think so!

I have no argument with you there. Hell, I was writing up the approval and further suggestions when YOU blew it with your hateful little response.

Respect is given until there is a reason for it to be absent. You have determined the outcome. You're only unhappy because we aren't seeing things the way you see them.

Meh.

OK so a mod that looked very promising, has been sunk by susceptibility, greed, envy and other bad feelings among modders.

Re-reading all posts, I cannot see what OLC did so badly wrong to be the first one to be denied use of GWX. He did not release anything, and he asked permission (even a bit lately) to use GWX as a basis. From what I can see, I believe his one was an original work and he did not go searching glory using some other's work. I suppose that he used GWX only because it is the most widespread supermod.

Doing this way, one will soon need to be a lawyer, or to hire a lawyer, before starting to mod!!! This is one of the reasons because I decided not to start modding, and it was a wise decision, as far as I can see.

I understand OLC, he looks to be a technical guy and did not care of bureucracy, so he was fired.

I respect the work of the GWX guys, but in this case I am with OLC, FWIW.

Maraz

3... :shifty:

this is what I am saying here as well,
But I end up mi opinons here and now!

We look like a car brack at the moment,
trying to brack the Modding inovation
is not a good policy as far as I see it!

Mi apologies to the GWX team for having
a diferent opinion on this but it's what I think
and has to be said!:shifty: :hmm:

all opinions aside it's time to let this R.I.P. :stare:

:yep: :yep:

http://omglol.kerrolisaa.com/1/203.gif

:up:

RIP:cry:

No worries Maraz and JCWolf. You are entitled to your opinion.

However, I'll simply point out again that it was onelifecrisis who made the bed that he must lie in. He chose to run his mouth off while I was writing up the approval. Nor was it the first time he chose to be a jerk to us.

What did you guys expect? Do you roll over and cry 'SURRENDER' when someone punches you in the mouth?

I think not.

Sometimes what you don't say and what you don't do speak louder than what you could've done or said. ;)

I will let it die after I say one more thing.;)

After the modding is finished and the GWX team disbands, this statement will remain true.:yep:

GWX is only what it is because we are very close friends and after the final release of GWX, we will remain so, regardless of the sigs we wear.:up:

RIP Thread.:dead:

:nope: :nope: :nope:

I realy respected you a lot!
Do not make me loose it !:nope:

This was pointed to everyone, not only to RB. My bad.