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Interesting reading here,mates.:yep:.. But try to keep on topic, guys.. I would hate to move this to the general topics forum.. :up:

Haven't moved to SHIV. Watch Das Boot for the XXth time and got the bug. Reinstalled SHIII on my new system and installed GWX. It's a whole new game... with GWX changes and the new system running 1680x1050 4xAA I'm happy like a pig in.. :rock: . Maybe once the GWX crew or something as complete is done for SHIV.

PS. Thanks GW :up: .

T.

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And a thing not the fault of this game - American subs are not good at all.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:yet they won.

No surprise...quantity over quality. The Allies are lucky the Type XXI wasn't put into mass production earlier. It would have been a whole different ballgame :smug:

Not really, actually you are partly right, the German boats were better, but they could not match Allied production.

The Japanese didn't protect their shipping til it was to late, if the US had proper torpedoes the war would have been over a year earlier.:nope: IE. No Iwo Jima, Okinawa, or Hiroshima.

Anyway, I do think the US radar and TDC were better...but not the torps. :rotfl:

Germany chose Quality over Quantity
mix that with Hitler declaring war on multiple fronts like Russia which became his doom. if Hitler leaved Russia alone and nothing happend between the 2 nations it would have been different probally we would have spoken german all over europe.

Hitler himself has a part in the loss of the war, as he was stuborn and a complete maniac. thought he has been in WW1 he had No Military intelligence over strategics and important decisions.
I really hate him for letting thousands of men rot in stallingrad for his cause.

just be glad that it happend this way. as I wouldnt have a good night rest with hitler's picture hanging above my bed...:dead:

Shure he had no understanding of strategy and tactics.
Privates never have,thats one reason why they are privates.:hmm:

I played a few mission in carreer mode ('always partol Chinese sea') and stopped. After 1.3 I played it one evening. By now I'm back at SH3. Ubi should have perfected the Atlantic theatre adding more immersion such as wolfpacks, enigma, snow etc. Slaughtering Japs is no fun at all.

GWX obviously :lol:
I have purchased a copy of SHIV via SS but will wait until it's a little more playable :arrgh!:

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Same thing happened after the American Civil War. It all became about "ending slavery", which is complete BS.

So I guess Lincoln was lying when he issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 and everyone, even modern day history books and scholars and people with a functioning brain-stem, still buys into the fabrication the Civil War was about slavery. That Lincoln, what a jokester. Fooled everyone into thinking the seminal reason the Union was fighting the South was because of slavery...and all because of the Emancipation Proclamation which says the war was about ending slavery, but that was all obviously either faked or just a little ol' misunderstanding on Lincoln's part. :roll:

The Lincoln vision can certainly be gleaned from views such as the one he expressed in an 1862 letter to the New York Daily Tribune: "My paramount object...is to save the union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the union without freeing any slave I would do it..." The imperative of keeping the races apart is another reoccurrence in Lincoln’s addresses.

Ol' "Honest Abe" was a real joker allright. He didn't hesitate to violate Constitutional rights when it suited his purposes. As in the Constitutional right of Habeus Corpus.
The Emancipation Proclaimation...here's the lowdown on that scam...

For one, Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation guaranteed that slaves were freed only in the parts of the Confederacy inaccessible to the union army. Union soldiers, for their part, were permitted to confiscate slaves in rebel territory and put them to work for the union army. In areas loyal to the union, slaves were not emancipated. After the war, Lincoln offered little land to the freed men; most of the land was parceled off to his constituent power-base, the railroad and mining companies.

The economic undertow offers better insight into the Lincoln mission. The South, which supplied 75 percent of exports, was on the cusp of becoming a low tariff, free trade zone. Lincoln feared this would disadvantage the North, and in particular his rich industrialist supporters. Much like the Canadian equalization payments through which the government plunders the West, Lincoln imposed punitive tariffs as a means to distribute wealth from the South to northern manufacturers.

If you are gonna use examples, make sure you know what you are talking about FIRST. :nope:

Dep

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Shure he had no understanding of strategy and tactics.
Privates never have,thats one reason why they are privates.:hmm:

FYI....he was a Corporal at the end of WW1. And that Corporal went on to conquer ALL of Europe and part of Africa. Yeah....he really didn't know squat about tactics. :roll:

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Shure he had no understanding of strategy and tactics.
Privates never have,thats one reason why they are privates.:hmm:

FYI....he was a Corporal at the end of WW1. And that Corporal went on to conquer ALL of Europe and part of Africa. Yeah....he really didn't know squat about tactics. :roll:

Wasn't aware he conquered ALL of Europe :hmm:

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Wasn't aware he conquered ALL of Europe :hmm:

Well...he didn't invade Spain...but he didn't have to :D And Sweden was a non-entity that neither side bothered with. Ditto for Switzerland...although they weren't exactly "enemies" of Germany.

I tried to move to SH4. It was so buggy I gave up b4 1.3 was released I should try again but its hard given my earlier frustration........one of these days perhaps.

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Wasn't aware he conquered ALL of Europe :hmm:

Well...he didn't invade Spain...but he didn't have to :D And Sweden was a non-entity that neither side bothered with. Ditto for Switzerland...although they weren't exactly "enemies" of Germany.

You forgot to include Russia (not even the capital) :hmm:

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Well...he didn't invade Spain...but he didn't have to :D

:shifty::shifty::nope:
Reducing the hole matter to a matter of >>him<< (Hitler) simplyfies it way to much. What a untrue and yet common phrase. I hate that :damn:

Sry for not keeping the topic, but it's annoying to see people talk about ww2 like that :down:

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Wasn't aware he conquered ALL of Europe :hmm:

Well...he didn't invade Spain...but he didn't have to :D And Sweden was a non-entity that neither side bothered with. Ditto for Switzerland...although they weren't exactly "enemies" of Germany.

You forgot to include Russia (not even the capital) :hmm:

Most of the European area of the Soviet Union was conquered.

Spain was already a Fascist state that sympathized with Germany when WW2 started. Do people not read history books are all of you reading the PC versions?

SH3 with GWX ofcourse!:arrgh!:

The GWX team have done such a great job with adding both realism and eyecandy to this game taking it to another level. And the Pacific theatre does not interest me as much as the Atlantic and the U-Boats anyway.

My wife bought it for me, but my system is just to slooow. So I won't move on until I can afford an upgrade. I really like U-Boats too, so I am going to stick with this for quite a while. This is a great game.

Seems to me SH IV would be the opposite of SH III -- where SH III slowly increases in difficulty as the Allies gain control of the sea lanes, SH IV would get easier as the war went on as the Japanese Navy was whittled down.

The Happy Hunting Grounds would have been off China and Japan in 1945.

Where is the fun in the shooting gallery at the end of your career?

That's my thoughts exactly... where's the sport in that?

SH# w/GWX I hear SHIV has better crew management but that's not enough for me to switch considering how good a mod GWX is.

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That was the exact same thing with SH1. It's historical accurate but perhaps less playable. Other games tend to get more difficult as you progress ;)

me. has not moved to sh4...except for modding it.

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Wasn't aware he conquered ALL of Europe :hmm:

Well...he didn't invade Spain...but he didn't have to :D And Sweden was a non-entity that neither side bothered with. Ditto for Switzerland...although they weren't exactly "enemies" of Germany.

You forgot to include Russia (not even the capital) :hmm:

It must have been that little bit he didn't conquer that led to his demise then.
I don't have a problem with reading thank you....in fact I am fortunate enough to have a living father who fought through this terrible era :yep: and his recollection is that Russia played a major role (attacking from the eastern EUROPEAN direction)
Do I detect an element of baiting ? :hmm:
If you are in fact retired as is suggested in your forum info, we at least have something in common. I am as yet not retired though.
In this forum as in my RL position I try to adhere to what the majority of people recognise as acceptable prctice/behaviour. I also strive to conform with the rules of this forum and treat fellow contributors with courtesy and respect.

Regards
Jimbuna