Mr MOM ;)
BLOG? heard of them but no I dont have a proper log yet. Kresge I hope your sending your wife out to work? Mine does double shifts lol:arrgh!: 16 hours from wilhelmshaven the Crew can see some birds and the hint of land on the southerly breeze. no tc here at all and this is the hardest part where I can see being tempted to use it . But I am too close now once In port after the partys I will work on a logbook before my next patrol


If i am away from my pc for any length of time i just sumerge at 30 meters at slow speed till I get back


nice read Kresge yea somthin like that would be nice

I tried doing a patrol/career not using tc.. but I couldn't do it. Had to use tc to help it along. I thought I was a hardcore sub-simmer.. but I was no where near :)

I didn't think anyone would have the patience to play without tc.. but I have to salute you guys for getting the best out of a game. If you can call it a game anymore.

My faith in being a true simmer is restored:up: I've given myself the task of learning the TDC and manual contact tracking etc... so I'll have time to practice while I'm trucking along. And you know the funny thing is I've never thought of Alt-Tabbing and surfing the net while playing. :doh:

I think there should be a 1x thread.. sounds like there is a Club 1X growing here ;)

Should there be a 1x thread? Yup, I think so, mate. It's a completely different game and less arcadish on 1x. I've toyed with 1x patrols before but three days ago I started my first one just to see what it's like and so far I'm loving it, especially with the GWX mod.

My days are nights for my sailors. That way I can monitor them as they diesel around on the surface and do a hydrophone check a noon my time (midnight theirs). At night when I go to bed I put them down deep and let them run.

I realize I'm not the first Kaluen to do this. I'm just saying I'm doing it for the first time and so far am LOVING it.

But, yeah, you have to be kinda goofy in the head to play 1x....I agree with that part! :lol:

A few more thoughts on 1x:

One thing for sure you gotta run the game in the background. I don't know anyone who plays 1x and sits there in front of the monitor 24/7. (And if you do you need to be insitutionalized.)

OTOH, it's not that hard playing 1x and it really gets you to thinking when you pick up a contact and start following it. You pay more attention and think through the problem more than "I'll run a ahead a bit and cap him as he sails by." You pay attention to everything on 1x: weather, convoy routes, bases, planes, etc. I find it very cool and very very nerve wracking.

Someone mentioned it's not realistic to play with the kids while running 1x. Well, yeah. But then again if I do get killed in game I don't take a .38 and spatter my medulla oblongata all over the wallpaper like a grisly Rorschach Test, either. Just for realism.

There was a Kaluen on these forums I believe (I wish I could remember his name so as to credit him) who said something along the lines of "TC is for gamers, 1x is for captains."

And the more I play 1x the more I kind of think he might be right.

I dunno if I'll stick with 1x forever. But I am loving it now. Just me, I guess.

And if you pick up a contact just as you're leaving for work?

I still don't get it; if you're not in front of the monitor 24/7 then 1x is no more realistic than TCing to catch up time lost when the computer was off.

WELCOME TO THE REAL SILENT HUNTER 3:up: I dont know seems when theres nothin happening and your on/in an area thats dull I find the game relaxing I 'll sit for an hour on watch , than come here type somthin, than watch tv or do whatever -but when in waters not so friendly you really need to be on it 10 times as many aircraft spotted(((may not all attack but WO see's em sound contac 10 fold more which means more action-------lets put it like this you miss too much tc'in -even convoys---NOOBISH-- Watching BLACK DOT SOME LINES AND A SQUARES IN THE MAP ROOM MIGHT AS WELL PLAY PONG--:oops: --to use tc it should be banned from the game:arrgh!:

PS just because you play 1x does not mean sitting in front of your pc 24/7 ((allthough I have been latly - sorry to say this wont last:()) so you went ten miles save n quit and pick it back up 2 days later or tc cross an ocean missin ships planes and who knows what else
1x mods last longer also--;)



I got the watch see ya later u45 --out

Watching TV is realistic for a u-boat patrol?

Attention all 1x Subsimmers...

I've bought a baby monitor so I can go throughout the rest of my sub (house) and take care of day to day things like cleaning and doing the dishes.

IT WORKS PERFECTLY!!! If my crew spots something... I come dashing in and take care of business.

(Just hide it when friends come over... They WILL NOT understand.)

You can get a lot of reading in as well.

When all of the GWX modding stops... and we go on to other things... You will find me somewhere on a 1x TC patrol... playing DiD at 100% realism as allowed by the game.

Though I do allow for such things as showers and the like. Also... Real depth charges are not allowed in the house.

Yes I am barking mad. Deal with it.:|\\

LOL you are the man!!! 1x rocks im getting near the english channel should be there tommorrow ((my time))


HMM:hmm: my big screen in the living room has P.I.P feature picture in piture hmm :hmm: wires everywhere cursing n swearin at an air attack at the same time the wife is watchin her soap operas--well maybe not:dead:

No, watching TV is not realistic. But then again neither is sitting in an air conditioned room drinking soda and eating french fries while you chat with your girlfriend on the phone with SH3 zippiing along at 1024x, LOL.

1x gives a whole new dimension to the game, I think is what a lot of us are saying. And it really does. I'm 50km NE of Hartlepool. I got a DD sound contact to the SE, a long ways off. I came up to recharge and my crew spotted what looked like a rowboat off to the W. In the old days I would have machinegunned said rowboat running the risk of having it radio the DD. In 1X? I stealthily snuck off to the NW into the dark. I wasn't about to call down a DD just for taking out what looked like a fancy rowboat of 110 tons. I'll wait for better game, thank you.

Now that's immersion. Or at least it is to me. And that's what I like.

I still maintain I may not stay with 1x forever. But the days of me warping around the Atlantic missing tons of contacts are OVER. Again, just me.

And of course you can save and come back later if need be. (Would that the real U-boat commanders had this option.)

My eight year old also plays SH3. (I introduced him to it. Me, the perfect Dad!) He knows his way around a U-boat, let me tell you. I sometimes have him come up to my office and take her down to 25 meters and check for sound contacts. While there he plays the music on the gramaphone and switches guys out to rest and write letters home to galfriends while the next watch goes on duty. After an hour he brings her back up and puts her back on course using the diesels.

He's a big help. I'm gonna miss him when he goes back to school!! :rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl: AWESOME :arrgh!:

No, TC isn't realistic either, but I've never claimed it is. I'm arguing with people like Codmander insulting the rest of us:
Also I have a question: If you're gone all day and miss a convoy, how is that better than missing one at high TC?

I'm not knocking playing at 1x; I just take exception to people who knock those who don't.

That's what's great about this sim : with all the mods around and the different ways to play it, each one can find what he likes and no way of playing is better than others, as long as the player is satisfied with what he does (even if other players think the guy is nuts...)
There was recently a nice article on "hardcore flight simmers" at Sim HQ, worth reading.

I agree people shouldn't be knocking other people who use TC or vice versa. To each his own, that's my motto.

Sailor Steve has a really good point.

Personally I love 1x TC... for the sake of "realism."

HOWEVER, practically speaking... it isn't very "realistic" when you have a real life to live.

Leaving your PC running also causes wear and tear... that many cannot afford to fix... I am often in that boat.

Computer parts are like light-bulbs... they wear out. If my processor gave out today... I'd be down for at least a month.

No one should knock people who use TC.

Honestly, the worst thing about TC is the problems the SH3 engine causes in respect to lack of detection... The computational lag versus detection problem is roughly doubled with each level of TC...

... but until we all have time for nothing but playing SH3... and/or exorbitantly expensive super-PC's...

Ya do what you can.

1x TC does change everything in a sort of good way though. I think everyone should try it at least once... just to experience the feeling... even if it is a short range coastal Type II Duck out of Kiel in 1939. (Doing exactly that in GWX can be breathtaking... our guys built a full, living, breathing world that is indescribeable... I'm just as much a tourist in this respect as anyone else... because the campaign team did this work with little input from me.)

Whatever mod you use... it does really change everything. It gives you a sense of distance and isolation that you just don't get using TC.

Yes it is time intensive in a way... but ya gotta try it at least once... and for the hours that nothing is happening... you can be productive around the house. (This is why I bought the baby monitor!)

I want to do a reeeallly long trip in a type IX eventually... maybe sail to Penang the hard way... or sail in Operation Drumbeat...

Decisions decisions! :doh:

Man, you're not kidding. Running at 1x along a convoy route at midnight while the moon is flying behind scudding clouds....you really get that sense of isolation. I like that a lot.

Stray thoughts:

1) Short periods of water sounds make one want to run to the bathroom.

2) Long Bridge watches in fair weather... SLEEEEEPY TIME... HARD TO STAY AWAKE!!! :o

3) Rechargeable baby monitor- $30... 1x TC voyage experience at least once- PRICELESS!!! :rock:

Tc or no TC: reminds me of when some people were up in arms during the development of SHIII because they didn't want anyone to be able to save games just because they thought it was wrong. :rotfl:

Really, I think most of the people on here talking about no TC being the 'real' SHIII are just joking, but I do get annoyed at all the threads berating 'vanilla' SHIII. The only mod I use is to correct eh crew fatigue to a normal level and I have no qualms about this game. Of course, I have a background playing things like Silent Service and SHI, so I'm easy to please.

I personally like to man the bridge under 1x for a while to immerse myself in the sights and sounds, then I leave it running while I read something naval-related (not belly buttons). But when i'm running under the surface during the day I crank up the TC to 64x to pass some time; otherwise I would still be on my first patrol!

HAW! I didn't know there were people who didn't even want to save the game...oh, well, it just goes to show you it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.

Naturally, I played vanilla when it first came out, but soon I caught on (hey, even a blind hog can dig up an acorn every now and then) to the fact there was a sub community out there doing round the clock work to make a good game great...and I never went back to vanilla.

I don't have anything against vanilla SH3, but I must admit NYGM or GWX makes the 1x a lot more enjoyable to play....for me anyway. Eh, to each his own. So far I'm liking 1x but, yeah, the "I play more realistic than you" silliness is well, silly.

Once again...my two yen.