Mhm well all i have to say is let me know when you have actualy realy played both sports Kurushio, then perhaps ill belive to your "expert opinion". Then tell me that you didnt feel a thing when you got whacked in the head with a hockey puck, or cross checked into the boards, or triped at speed and smashed head first into them, or high sticked. The pads are there to keep the players from getting killed. But they certainly do feel it.

As for getting your throat/neck slashed by a hockey skate, it has happened several times proffessionaly, and even more with non professionals. Its something that can very easily kill the person too. The padding makes it more difficult for it to happen, but certainly not impossible.

Im not gona argue over which sport is the most macho, or best or whatever, as frankly i think its an exercise in foolishness, and futility.

I have a question to you all

Is it so important to know who Skybird has on his ignore-list??

It could be me and if it is I couldn't care less.

Markus

I vote hockey as the most well watched brutile sport there is!

-S

PS. Thats my expert opinion.

Wait...Skybird's ignoring hockey?!! :o :o

Or....did I miss something? :oops: ;)

Kurishio, I will give you a very good example of the warrior mentality that defines the NHL, then you can go back to watching your prima donas prance up and down the grass with their nerf balls and crying like babies when they pull a muscle or get scratched.

March 4, 2006: Carolina forward Erik Cole gets hit from behind by a Penguins defenseman, slamming Cole into the boards and breaking his neck (compression fracture of the C-5 vertebra). Not only did he break his neck, he returned to play in the playoffs three months later - without having been to as much as a practice in the interim and with his health still in question - to play in the last 2 critical games of the Stanley Cup where he was deliberately brutalized on the ice by Edmonton. I watched game 7, and Edmonton players not only admitted it, they bragged about it because this is just how the game is played - after all, its hockey, not soccer.

As to the skate across the neck incident:

"One of the more terrifying moments in recent sports memory is the time Buffalo Sabres goalie Clint Malarchuk had his throat slit by an opposing player's skate, nearly dying right there on the ice."

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/nhl/

They also have a link to a pic of it, if you're up for seeing what a real sports injury looks like instead of the pic someone else posted of that soccer baby crying over his paper cut.

Edit: from the linked article (with pic) that I posted above:

On a routine play; St. Louis right winger Steve Tuttle was charging toward Malarchuk with defenseman Uwe Krupp closing in from behind. As the puck flashed through the crease, Krupp grabbed Tuttle and Tuttle's leg kicked into the air, his skate blade slicing through the exposed flesh under Malarchuk's mask.

The skate blade of Tuttle slashed Malarchuk's exterior jugular vein in his neck. It was this accident that caused goalies wear neck protectors. In seconds there was a pool of blood on the ice so large it filled the entire crease. During this whole time, Malarchuk remained conscious. It is because of this, that he remembers the words that he spoke after the accident. Malarchuk flung off his mask and collapsed to the ice in a pool of his own blood, fearing that he was about to die. He asked the trainer:

"Am I going to live?''

Malarchuk struggled to stay conscious, sensing that if he did pass out he'd never wake up. Aware that his mother had been watching the game on TV, he had an equipment manager call and tell her he loved her. Then he asked for a priest.

Something in his mind was telling him to get off the ice, "because I didn't want to die on the ice. I was saying prayers. I was scared."

"I did think I was done," said Malarchuk 13 years later, "Somewhere I'd heard that if you cut your jugular vein you've got a matter of minutes, like three minutes. I was going through the minutes preparing to die. I thought I had just three minutes to live and I've got a lot of repenting to do in three minutes."

The sight was so grizzly that 2 spectators suffered heart attacks and 3 of Malarchuk's teammates vomited while still on the ice.

It was estimated that if the skate hit 1/8 inch higher on Malarchuk's jugular, he would have been dead within 2 minutes. In the dressing room and on his way to the hospital, doctors spent 90 minutes and used over 300 stitches to close the wound.

But Malarchuk's story did not stop there.

In only 3 months, Malarchuk returned to a standing ovation.

Nope yet another thread that got diverted way of course.

I blame Skybird, he hijacked his own thread not so long ago

Ouch, that's something new for a change. :lol:

Actually, I am no real football fan, and in past years preferred hockey, but haven'T been a real fan of that either. when I sounded a bit enthusiastically in the football threads, then becasue the mood the tournament has caused in Germany cannot be understood if you haven't been here- it has changed some things in this nation very dramatically, and for the better. And that was a bit infectous.

On the comparison football versus hockey, I find it idiotic to compare these on the basis of what sports is more brutal. In the end they are two very different kind of games, and the perfect pass by Gretzky can be as beautiful to see as is a combination and a perfect pass by Zidane, making it look so easy. sometimes I also have watched Basketball. Volleyball. Tennis. So what? Is the more brutal sport the better sport? Eventually one could argue it is quite the other way around.

Scandium, just because a sport condones violence, doesn't make it "good". Let's face it, it's not a sport you'd take your kids to watch, not unless you want them to grow up psycho-maniacs. It's also a sport limited to sub-arctic nations such as Canada and Iceland...I've never seen the Brazilian ice hockey team, have you? So you'll never have a "world cup", maybe an "ice-cream cup" instead? :lol:

You've already stated ice hockey players are less likely to injure themselves because of the padded bras and underwear. As opposed to football players who regularly get broken bones, hernias and hemoroids. :up:

Ice Hockey is based on grass hockey. A sport invented by toffs in England. So it's not even an original...just a version for poor people who can't afford lawns. :smug: Face it...ice hockey could be played on a frozen lake...grass hockey needs a manicured lawn.

And as for the so called "warrior" mentality of ice hockey. Every sport can boast that. Baseball: 2004 World Series and Curt Schilling pitches with bloody sock and a serious ankle injury... Football (soccer :roll:): Only recently Beckham played with an upset stomach in the world cup and puked his guts out on the pitch....NFL: Fat bastard Chicago Bears guard "Fridge" played despite risking a heart attack...Sumo wrestling: fat bastards in g-strings play despite the most horrendous wedgie.... etc etc...

Not my fault Canada chose an obselete sport. The national sport of Peru is Llama tipping...that'll be obselete as soon as Llamas evolve shorter necks and thicker legs...so they choose another sport...big deal. :roll:

And you know what...is it really good when one of your players is knocked senseless in a game and can't play to his full potential? I think not. NHL = No Hockey League.:up:

p.s. I just remembered why ice hockey is becoming obselete. Because as a TV sport, it's the worst out there. You can;t see the puck on TV for about 80 per cent of the time. Finsihed, gone finito...without TV no sport can survive.

It doesn't condone it, it is a violent sport by nature. A kind of modern day gladiator battle but played in a smaller colliseum. :D



I will again refer you to an atlas as I did in another thread, where you'll discover that the Carolina team I mentioned (and who won the Stanley Cup this year) is in the Southern US - not quite 'sub-arctic' ;)

The opposite is true. Not only has the NHL greatly expanded in recent years, but hockey has also been expanding internationally as well.

You've obviously never seen it in high definition then. :D

Oh ok...then it's an elitist sport, only for rich people who can afford high definition TV?...gotcha

You cant follow the puck because your not use to watching the game. For a while an american station tried auto highlighting it (where it would have a pink aura around it and trail when moving fast) but it wasnt very popular.

Btw i didnt know some of the southern states in the US like california counted as sub-arctic.

Oh and your theory of how ice hockey were invented are not exactly correct as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey#History

Also lawn hockey has little relation to ice hockey other then in very basic terms (you hit something with a stick into their net, while the other team tries to do the same with the same something into your net). Other then that the rules, equipment, playing area, etc are all different


I would suggest if your going to argue, that you at least make sure your "facts" are actualy correct.

So apart from sharing the same name "hockey", the same shaped stick, the fact that they both have nets...they have nothing in common.:lol:

oh..and...Wikipedia* ;) By the way...the Stanley Cup was made in Britain

This thread must set the record for drifting so far off topic!