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SubSerpent 10-03-06 06:06 PM

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Great idea, and when that 2000 bucks isn't worth enough to even pay for a loaf of bread what will be Subman Greenspans solution then?

I mentioned it should inflate with inflation! What is currently considered to be the worth of $2000 right now is what I'm talking about. Of course it should inflate as prices rise.

ASWnut101 10-03-06 06:07 PM

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because thats considered communism

we, the US, are a democracy (or a republic in some eyes).
that goes against everything a democracy/republic is.


Ok, and forcing America's to spend its money on other programs is not considered to be a communistic act?

BTW...

We are talking about the veterans of US wars here, so I think spending money on them is far from being a communistic act considering so many have given so much to the American people. What's it worth to you?


the WAY you suggest to get the money is communism. NOT for what the moneys for.

SubSerpent 10-03-06 06:08 PM

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and I like how you think that the "no child left behind" act, tax cuts, and the Department of Homeland Security were just "a waste of money":nope:


All of those are worthless programs. There are still childern being left behind and the program hasn't shown to be effective at all. The Dept. Homeland security is completely worthless since they obviously can't stop or prevent a terrorist act from happening. And tax cuts are a bad thing to most in the US since the poor stay poor and the rich stay rich. It allows for no growth in the US.

August 10-03-06 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
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Originally Posted by August
Great idea, and when that 2000 bucks isn't worth enough to even pay for a loaf of bread what will be Subman Greenspans solution then?

I mentioned it should inflate with inflation! What is currently considered to be the worth of $2000 right now is what I'm talking about. Of course it should inflate as prices rise.

And that causes even more inflation soon causing the price of a loaf of bread to go to $50,000 or more. Don't think it can happen? Somewhere around here i have a post WW1 German bill in a 50 MILLION mark denomination that wouldn't have been enough to buy a loaf of bread when it was printed.

Same action, same result.

SubSerpent 10-03-06 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ASWnut101
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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
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because thats considered communism

we, the US, are a democracy (or a republic in some eyes).
that goes against everything a democracy/republic is.


Ok, and forcing America's to spend its money on other programs is not considered to be a communistic act?

BTW...

We are talking about the veterans of US wars here, so I think spending money on them is far from being a communistic act considering so many have given so much to the American people. What's it worth to you?


the WAY you suggest to get the money is communism. NOT for what the moneys for.

I don't recall how I stated how the money was to be to collected. I would figure by normal tax money or whatever.

If you meant by me stating for them to use the print press then that's no what I meant. Fact is the government owns runs and controls the print press so it's not illegal for them to print out money as the deem fit.

SubSerpent 10-03-06 06:17 PM

Well guys, seems you all are going to find anything to argue with me on - even when it comes to the war heros of the nation. You stand there with your hands in your pockets and shrug your shoulders when it comes to your own vets. I find that disrespectful. Aparently a lot of people on here have already asked themselves what can the country do for me instead of the other way around considering you want troops to do all this fighting and protecting of your freedoms but you are always going to make sure they live in the dumps when they are no longer contributing to it.

ASWnut101 10-03-06 06:18 PM

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All of those are worthless programs. There are still childern being left behind and the program hasn't shown to be effective at all. The Dept. Homeland security is completely worthless since they obviously can't stop or prevent a terrorist act from happening.

Name a terrorist act they failed to prevent.

And its nice how you think so much of our school childeren.

ASWnut101 10-03-06 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
Fact is the government owns runs and controls the print press so it's not illegal for them to print out money as the deem fit.


It is VERY illeagal for them to do that actually.:yep:

Sea Demon 10-03-06 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
The Dept. Homeland security is completely worthless since they obviously can't stop or prevent a terrorist act from happening. And tax cuts are a bad thing to most in the US since the poor stay poor and the rich stay rich. It allows for no growth in the US.

Since the DHS has been enacted, there have been no Islamic terrorist attacks at all on US soil. :lol: You are totally lost.

And the fact that there is currently a higher percentage of revenue flowing into the federal treasury right now, shows you are completely wrong. And the economy is currently growing at 5.7% which is higher at present rate than any year under Bill Clinton. :up:

SubSerpent 10-03-06 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ASWnut101
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Fact is the government owns runs and controls the print press so it's not illegal for them to print out money as the deem fit.


It is VERY illeagal for them to do that actually.:yep:


Well, lets see here. The pentagon has a $1 billion a day spending budget at it's disposal. Where's the $1 billion come from? I'll tell you. They print the money, they spend the money, it's up to you and me and every other tax payer to pay it back! That's where the money comes from!

It's no different than if I borrowed your credit card and spent a fortune on it and gave it back to you to pay off the bill. It's the exact same idea.

SubSerpent 10-03-06 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
The Dept. Homeland security is completely worthless since they obviously can't stop or prevent a terrorist act from happening. And tax cuts are a bad thing to most in the US since the poor stay poor and the rich stay rich. It allows for no growth in the US.

Since the DHS has been enacted, there have been no Islamic terrorist attacks at all on US soil. :lol: You are totally lost.

And the fact that there is currently a higher percentage of revenue flowing into the federal treasury right now, shows you are completely wrong. And the economy is currently growing at 5.7% which is higher at present rate than any year under Bill Clinton. :up:

Wrong Wrong and Wrong again! Where do you get these numbers? You must pull them out of your butt or something.

Homeland Security failed the girl the other day from the terrorist that came into her school and shot her to death.
Homeland Security hasn't had to deal with Al Qaeda because the US military is currently invading their homeland in Afganistan.

The flow of federal income may be higher but the spending flow of the government is at the highest it's been since WWII.

The no child left behind act has not prooved to be any more effective than the way schools were prior to the act. Also, they might as well change the name to the "No WHITE child left behind act" considering blacks and other minorities are not gaining from the act at all in their intercity schools. It's just another form of the Bush administration holding down the little man and helping himself.

Sea Demon 10-03-06 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
Wrong Wrong and Wrong again! Where do you get these numbers? You must pull them out of your butt or something.

Homeland Security failed the girl the other day from the terrorist that came into her school and shot her to death.
Homeland Security has had to deal with Al Qaeda because the US military currently invading their homeland in Afganistan.

The flow of federal income may be higher but the spending flow of the government is at the highest it's been since WWII.

The no child left behind act has not prooved to be any more effective than the way schools were prior to the act. Also, they might as well change the name to the "No WHITE child left behind act" considering blacks and other minorities are not gaining from the act at all in their intercity schools. It just another form of the Bush administration holding down the little man and helping himself.

The IRS site has some pretty good stats to look at. Where do you get your numbers? At any rate, it's not important. Your people are not in power. Small and middle size businesses have learned in the past that your thinking increases business and personal taxes. And depresses economic activity. Why do you think the democrats use terms like "targeted tax cuts" every election cycle. Can't wait to hear the code words this time around.

And no. There is murder in America, and every country out there. DHS is not an agency to stop that. If DHS was that broad, you would be screaming NAZI hysterically......oh yeah...wait. :lol: See, you want it both ways. Typical. Anyway, when speaking of terrorism, there is not one attack on US soil since DHS was enacted. And only one terrorist attack on US interest since Bush has been President. And he responded, not swept it under the rug like your typical weak-kneed democrat. But I did hear democrats say we deserved it.

And also, there is currently lower inflation, better unemployment figures and more robust home-ownership now. Even in the markets out here in California.

And I agree, the public schools at large are failing our kids. And those schools are largely run by democrats. Protected by teachers unions. Bush tried to put standards in these schools, and the teachewrs screamed bloody murder. No , we can't have school standards, can we SubSerpent? That would be unfair, and racist? :doh: Why does Bush attack the teachers? :roll: :doh:

SubSerpent 10-03-06 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
Wrong Wrong and Wrong again! Where do you get these numbers? You must pull them out of your butt or something.

Homeland Security failed the girl the other day from the terrorist that came into her school and shot her to death.
Homeland Security has had to deal with Al Qaeda because the US military currently invading their homeland in Afganistan.

The flow of federal income may be higher but the spending flow of the government is at the highest it's been since WWII.

The no child left behind act has not prooved to be any more effective than the way schools were prior to the act. Also, they might as well change the name to the "No WHITE child left behind act" considering blacks and other minorities are not gaining from the act at all in their intercity schools. It just another form of the Bush administration holding down the little man and helping himself.

The IRS site has some pretty good stats to look at. Where do you get your numbers? At any rate, it's not important. Your people are not in power. Small and middle size businesses have learned in the past that your thinking increases business and personal taxes. And depresses economic activity. Why do you think the democrats use terms like "targeted tax cuts" every election cycle. Can't wait to hear the code words this time around.

And no. There is murder in America, and every country out there. DHS is not an agency to stop that. If DHS was that broad, you would be screaming NAZI hysterically......oh yeah...wait. :lol: See, you want it both ways. Typical. Anyway, when speaking of terrorism, there is not one attack on US soil since DHS was enacted. And only one terrorist attack on US interest since Bush has been President. And he responded, not swept it under the rug like your typical weak-kneed democrat. But I did hear democrats say we deserved it.

And also, there is currently lower inflation, better unemployment figures and more robust home-ownership now. Even in the markets out here in California.

And I agree, the public schools at large are failing our kids. And those schools are largely run by democrats. Protected by teachers unions. Bush tried to put standards in these schools, and the teachewrs screamed bloody murder. No , we can't have school standards, can we SubSerpent? That would be unfair, and racist? :doh: Why does Bush attack the teachers? :roll: :doh:


OMG! It's a miracle!

Oh BTW...

The rest of your post was wrong, The numbers are BS and no the US economy was a lot better under Clinton. It's been proven time and time again. it must be hard for you to accept that fact. :nope:

VipertheSniper 10-03-06 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
Anyway, when speaking of terrorism, there is not one attack on US soil since DHS was enacted. And only one terrorist attack on US interest since Bush has been President.

Did the terrorists even try to stage another attack on US soil as of now? I sure haven't heard anything about it over here...

It reminds me of the Bear Patrol episode in the Simpsons, a bear comes once into Springfield, I believe he's shot, the citizens call for a bear patrol, because of the "frequent" bear attacks, bear patrol in place, no more bears in town, but not because of the bear patrol, but because the one bear they killed (or captured, really don't know), was the only one in the area.

Sea Demon 10-03-06 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

OMG! It's a miracle!

Oh BTW...

The rest of your post was wrong, The numbers are BS and no the US economy was a lot better under Clinton. It's been proven time and time again. it must be hard for you to accept that fact. :nope:

How so? How do you participate in the economy? Do you even participate or do you just sit around forums all day and whine and throw bombs?

This years unemployment figures were in the high 4's. Like 4.7%. Clinton never saw anything like that as his best year he saw somewhere in the 5's. Inflation is also lower right now. And interest rates in the 90's were never like they are now. Plus there are more homeowners now. Plus federal tax rates are low...which is why some of this is the way it is. Clinton never had numbers like these. Too bad you just can't accept reality. :nope: :D


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