Tell that to the people in Ukraine 1932-1933 millions killed in the largest national catastrophe of the Ukrainian nation in modern history, the famine was caused by the deliberate policies of the government of the Soviet Union.

Need a refresher Noob? HERE:

How about 30 years of communism in Romania brought us to our knees and the fact that we may need another 30-40 years to recover?

What are YOU thinking?!

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You really must learn your history.

Millions were killed and were innocent.

He most probably has a great Pravda back-issue collection.

...and now it morphs into flaming...

Anyway, i go to sleep now, so i will post answeres tomorrow if i wake up.

Goodnight. :zzz:

Noob,
Have you read a biography of Stalin? I'd say you haven't. Stalin was not a communist. He was one of the worlds bloodiest tyrants plain and simple.

I can't beleive i took the time to write a couple responses back in this thread. I want those 10 mins of my life back! What a waste!

I have three words:

What the F**k?

Noob...which side of Germany do you live in...East or West? Admittedly that's a moot point now.
Now, I'm a left-wing kinda guy, I like the idea of Communism and the idea of everyone being equal...but this isn't an equal world and no matter what you do, there's always going to be one man who reckons he's better and bigger than everyone else, and there'll always be the sheep that follow him (or indeed for that matter, her).
In an ideal world Communism would work, and work well...but this isn't an ideal world, far from it.
I hate to break this to you, but Stalin betrayed the revolution, he worked himself in the shadows, moving around in jobs that no-one wanted, heck, I'm not gonna deny that the guy worked hard and perhaps, to some extent he helped get Russia through the 'Great Patriotic War' but for humanitarian crimes, he was up there with the other guy, and the control he, as one man, had over the country...I sincerely doubt that is true communism.
Like I said, this ain't a perfect world, and it's occupants aren't either.

Wow what a statement oberon is really http://www.langkawi.dk/midis/9.gif off.

:D

Nah, I'm just warming up ;)

I just hate it when people get so blinkered through nationalistic pride (or the belief that one form of government is superior to another) that they cast aside all logical thought and choose not to see the facts as they are presented to them. We know the crimes against humanity commited under Stalins regime, whether or not this was done with Stalins precise authorisation is a little harder to know or whether it was more the actions of the 'yes men' (or indeed 'Da taravichs', if I've written that right) around him, although with that many people being killed some word would have had to have gotten through to him.
It's attitudes like this that let history repeat itself.

Noob, you are quite welcome to your own opinions, this is a democratic nation or so it says on the tin, but just consider whether you'd be writing on the internet, on a computer in your home under the regime of someone like Stalin, or if you did, whether you'd be allowed to talk to people on the other side of the 'Iron Curtain', or indeed allowed to know the truth of things going on over here.
For a good example of communism in the modern age, go to China.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4088702.stm

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/24/D8FBCF686.html

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,56195,00.html

Very well said. :up:

This topic has been seriously derailed. I'm just sayin...

Back on topic:

Amir Taheri sticks to his original story.

You are right. I just Read a Book today about Communism and the Soviet leaders.

It really opened my Eyes on Stalin. :nope:
But i'm Still a Commie.

And one more thing: Don't be so negative Oberon. It destroys you slowly.

Now we can go back to Topic. :P