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ADukes 04-02-06 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonZ
hmm which one I should believe, Boris or Scire :hmm:

The historic correct one ;)

http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/28/72/81_10.JPG
Is it Jugoslawien or Jugoslavien?

LGN1 04-02-06 05:42 PM

Hi,

Great news about the 'non-swastika' version!

Concerning the names: I am from Germany and I have never heard something like 'Britisches Reich'. Kolumbien with 'C'? Maybe in those days it was Ok. Anyway, both things may be right and written in the book, but they look and sound really, really strange to me. I guess, almost every german guy who sees that will think it is wrong. No idea what one should choose.

Greetings, LGN1

Edit: Just saw the book. Amazing! Thanks for the picture! In those days they wrote lots of countries differently: Canada, Jugoslavien, Cuba, Nikaragua are all written differently today.

JonZ 04-02-06 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGN1
Hi,

Great news about the 'non-swastika' version!

Concerning the names: I am from Germany and I have never heard something like 'Britisches Reich'. Kolumbien with 'C'? Maybe in those days it was Ok. Anyway, both things may be right and written in the book, but they look and sound really, really strange to me. I guess, almost every german guy who sees that will think it is wrong. No idea what one should choose.

Greetings, LGN1

Perhaps it like the word gay, long ago it meant happy, now these days ... :shifty:

JonZ 04-02-06 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADukes
Quote:

Originally Posted by JonZ
hmm which one I should believe, Boris or Scire :hmm:

The historic correct one ;)

http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/28/72/81_10.JPG
Is it Jugoslawien or Jugoslavien?

Interesting aDuke. Even the flags seems to be conflicting, I use the GW flag as reference tho.

JonZ 04-02-06 05:49 PM

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/827/nations6wa.jpg

An update of the chart. I've change Columbia, Britische, and Jugoslavien

What dyu think

ADukes 04-02-06 06:18 PM

Still an S to much and remove "von Amerika": Vereinigtes Staaten von Amerika -> Vereinigte Staaten
Also with C instead an K: Kanadische Kriegsschiffe -> Canadische Kriegsschiffe

JonZ 04-02-06 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADukes
Still an S to much and remove "von Amerika": Vereinigtes Staaten von Amerika -> Vereinigte Staaten
Also with C instead an K: Kanadische Kriegsschiffe -> Canadische Kriegsschiffe

Alright. Now Updated:

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/7249/nations9lc.jpg

ADukes 04-02-06 06:29 PM

Historic perfect :up:

mkubani 04-02-06 07:11 PM

JonZ, great job!

Well, here are my 2 cents.

1. Please look for the Estoninan naval jack here:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ee~.html

This one can be seen in the original Uboat manual too.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/e/ee-naval.gif


2. Latvian warship flag (the one u have now is correct - for merchants):

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/lv-ensgn.html

You can also see it on the photo of the original Uboat recognition manual posted above.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/l/lv-waren.gif


3. Well, I am not sure, if this is a scope of your work too mate, but you may want to note the following:

a.) Albania was occupied in spring of 1939 by Italy = no fleet in September 1939 = should have no entry in the Recognition manual

b.) Czech part of Czechoslovakia was also occupied in spring of 1939 by Germans = no Tschechien entry. Please also note, that there was no independent Czechia prior to WW2. There was only Czechoslovakia and then it was occupied. Czechia did not exist in WW2. Well, last Czechoslovakia had no fleet anyway. :)

c.) Slovakia - became independent and German ally in 1939, but had no navy at all. Only river boats = no entry in the manual.

If you do want to keep this entry anyway, here is the correct WW2 flag of Slovakia.

http://www.ww2wings.com/wings/slovak...s/slovakia.gif


d.) Hungary, the same as Slovakia = only river and Balaton boats = no entry in the manual.

You can especially trust me on b, c, d since I am Slovak and know a lot about Czechoslovakia and Hungary too.

Last but not least, will you be also changing the flags on the ships so they match your manual nicely?

And thank you for your hard work!

JonZ 04-02-06 07:28 PM

Thanks for your input,

unfortunately I am weary about changing the flag design because if I do this, it automaticaly mean I have to redo also the flag the merchant and warship inside the game models.

I don't want that for now.

Also note that the entire flag occurance is depending on the mod you are using. They won't show up if they don't have these additionnal countries. Removing or adding flags won't have any effect on game.

You can however post about it in the GW errata thread since most of my flags comes from them. I'm pretty sure they will listen to you and make the changes in a future patch.

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=50043

JonZ 04-02-06 09:00 PM

I re-edited the flag to reflect 100% GW mod.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8319/nations1xx.jpg

AG124 04-02-06 09:53 PM

Why are the Australian and New Zealand flags suddenly Red instead of blue? Is that the color they actually were in WWII?

JonZ 04-02-06 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AG124
Why are the Australian and New Zealand flags suddenly Red instead of blue? Is that the color they actually were in WWII?

I did a few search and it appear to be the actual color of their navy. I don't know if they were red in WWII. The recognition manual that aDukes posted were blue. Whos wrong here? don't know.

I'll be sticking for the GW flags until they make the changes if they do. I have backuped the old flag so it won't much to get it again :)

And GW mod have their flag red too.

Boris 04-03-06 12:50 AM

I know that the merchant Aus/NZ flags in the game are blue... the page from the real book has a red kiwi merchant flag, but the one for australia is thae standard blue...
Who knows...
Also JonZ, the book shows all the Navy War flags for countries that yet do't have them... Denmark, Finland etc
Argentina also needs the yellow sun in the flag...

JScones 04-03-06 04:27 AM

Relax everyone, nothing's wrong.

Australia's "Handelsflagge" during WWII was indeed the Red Ensign. The flag listed and labelled in the Weyers Warships Identification Book is the service/official flag (ie Dienstfl.). For whatever reason the Red Ensign is not included (unless it is on another page).


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