are you not altering the file anyway? so whats the difference if a mod enabler alters the files or you manualy do it?

Well, if the player have already these mods I mentionned above, he won't notice a difference, except additions of features like Navimap mod and slideout FABC. I'm not even sure if it a good idea myself so.

What could be a better solution? I don't see any.

That's great news!

Can you pinpoint the portion of my code that was wrong in my post? I will make corrections tonight to an improved version with the needle pin on the chrono.

Actually, nothing at all was wrong with your post, other than the fact it was on a webpage rather than a .txt file for copying and pasting. In the end, the only problems that I had were (first) skipping from 329 to 340... TWICE! and at the end the spaces at the end of the lines. When I was playing around with the numbers attempting to switch the "working" estimated minutes with the non-working actual seconds, I realized there was a space at the end of the line where there wasn't on other entries. I then noticed there wasn't a space on the last line I C&Ped from the website, which was the circular line for the estimated minutes. Change everything back to how it was, remove spaces, and bingo it works.

My first time doing a 'hands on' modification and dang I learned an important lesson!

As far as making a JSGE mod for this... well menu_1024_748.ini is a heavily modified file by many mods. I made my own JSGE for this mod so I could 'back out' when I had problems (which I did). It would be possible to use simple .diff files and use VIM or some other tool to insert if if wasn't for the G3F Ixxx numbering. We'd need another tool to automate it fully.

When do you plan to release this ????

ARE YOU SH***ING ME??? What sliding chrono in the navimap mod are you talking about, and where is it hiding????? I can't believe that there's been one in there all this time and I didn't realize it :oops: Man - I gotta read those readme files more carefully :damn:

Anyway - great catch about those extra spaces Demonspawn - I'm gonna go ahead and check that out 'cause I did the same thing about pasting from the web page on the forum here and probably got the same result.

Thanks

[edit] OMG!!! it actually works - removing those extra spaces did the trick - you guys are awesome :rock:

And I never did find any sliding chrono on my navimap mods screen, so the fact that this works is waaaayy cooool :)

@ Demonspawn and/or Panthercules:

I've got the same problem. Chrono won't slide down and the droopy second hand...and...


I don't have any extra spaces in the txt files ???

I have Sales slideout TDC dials and meters.

I followed installation instructions, putting the dial files at the end and properly numbered and likewise with the ini file. All numbers are in sequence. I'm at a loss.

Bummer - I don't know what to tell you - I opened up the dials.cfg and the menu... file in Word, turned on the "show symbols/paragraph marks" or whatever function, and that made it easy to find all those (single) extra spaces at the ends of the pasted lines just like Demon said, and when I removed them it worked like a charm all of a sudden. Not sure why you're still having the problem, but I hope you get it sorted 'cause this is awesome when it works :yep:

Just for troubleshooting purposes, it might be worth a shot to temporarily disable that TDC mod you have via JSGME and then try this, just in case there is some sort of conflict with that one.

Tnx m8...I'll give that a try.

Ok, I've updated the first page.

I have uploaded the new chrono skin and renewed the instructions to install it.


I've also put a ready to use version for IuB/RuB/HT1.47 ready.

Unfortunately, not compatible with any other mods that alter the menu1024 file, like Simfree from Sale's.

Screenshots:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/427...casing79ak.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/221...casing67dt.jpg

Kudos, Herr JonZ.

Mega tnx to panthercules who helped me during a senior moment. Yep, it was the "•¶"

tnx agn,

JonZ is there anyway to upload to http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ , as Rapidshare isn't working for me ??

Whoops! Nevermind...it's working now.

Tnx,

I made the changes to the files, loaded the game and started the chrono in the UZO screen but when I go to the Binocular screen although the chrono is there and dragable, the hands aren't moving.

Any ideas on what I should look at?

I made sure there are no blanks in either of the files, the numbering is sequential and that the item id's are not being used anywhere else.

Also, is the chrono supposed to slide under the black mask on the Binocular screen?

TIA.

Frankly, I never had time to test particuliar areas to put the chrono. I'm sure that the Masking thing is a stacking order problem. The
only solution I have in mind is to put the chrono before the masking parameter sequences. If the mask is called in G27 i2 for example, the chrono should be placed at G27 i2 and the mask at G27 i3 and renumber all the Gs after.


Paste the codes here, I'll see what I can do to it tonight - make tweaks etc.

To this point, the goal of the next releases will be to fix unessessary codes or add more snipets to make the mod stable.

I made these changes based on your original version without the new chronograph.tga


Here are the changes I made to the Dials.cfg file


Used to be DialsNo=44

[DIALS]
DialsNo=48

****


[Dial44]
Name=Add_ChronoSec
Type=13; DIAL_CHRONO_SEC
Dial=0x0
CrtVal=0x27F00004
NewVal=0x0
DialVal=0,360
RealVal=0,60; seconds
Circular=Yes

[Dial45]
Name=Add_ChronoMin
Type=14; DIAL_CHRONO_MIN
Dial=0x0
CrtVal=0x27F00005
NewVal=0x0
DialVal=0,360
RealVal=0,60; minutes
Circular=Yes


[Dial46]
Name=Add_ChronoEstSec
Type=40; DIAL_TORP_ESTIM_SEC
Dial=0x0
CrtVal=0x27F00006
NewVal=0x0
DialVal=0,360
RealVal=0,60; seconds
Circular=Yes

[Dial47]
Name=Add_ChronoEstMin
Type=41; DIAL_TORP_ESTIM_MIN
Dial=0x0
CrtVal=0x27F00007
NewVal=0x0
DialVal=0,360
RealVal=0,60; minutes
Circular=Yes

Here are the changes I made to the menu_1024_768.ini file

Last entry was G27 I12

[G27 I13]
Name=Dial
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x27F00000
ParentID=0x27000000
Pos=220,350,163,213
Materials=1
Display=0;No stretch
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Periscope.tga
Crop 0=0.00292969,0.767578,0.15918,0.208008
Drag=true
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=true
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G27 I14]
Name=Sec
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x27F00004
ParentID=0x27F00000
Pos=81,-70,10,120
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Chrono.tga
Crop 0=0.3125,0,0.3125,0.9375
MatFlags=0x29
TexFmt=0x9
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G27 I15]
Name=Min
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x27F00005
ParentID=0x27F00000
Pos=82,-83,8,40
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Chrono.tga
Crop 0=0,0,0.25,0.3125
MatFlags=0x29
TexFmt=0x9
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G27 I16]
Name=Estim Sec
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x27F00006
ParentID=0x27F00000
Pos=81,-70,10,120
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Chrono.tga
Crop 0=0.6875,0,0.3125,0.9375
MatFlags=0x29
TexFmt=0x9
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G27 I17]
Name=Estim Min
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x27F00007
ParentID=0x27F00000
Pos=82,-83,8,40
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Chrono.tga
Crop 0=0,0.492188,0.25,0.3125
MatFlags=0x29
TexFmt=0x9
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF