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Hitman 11-14-05 01:20 PM

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We all know the Bible is the Truth
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If you say Jesus is a false prophet then surely somehow God would of made sure the teachings of Jesus wasn't added.
It was the students of the 4 evangelists who added them many years after Christ was (supposedly) crucified. There is good evidence that only 2 evangelies are authentic, the other two are bad copies and have contradictions plus a godo amount of bad translations of words, beginning with the virginity of Maria (Virgin was any young woman for jews, and to be more precise, a young woman in the "test" marraige, before the definitive one was accomplished). Same goes for the word "Angel" and many more....

The Avon Lady is completely right as to about why does Crhist not fullfill the profecies. An entirely different matter is the authenticity and reasonability of the old testament (Which christians share with jews) and the leading idea on it about God being the God only (Or mainly) for the jews, and against their enemies.

BTW forgot to add: The muslims also recognize in Christ a prophet, part of the hate they have for jews is supposedly for killing Ben Yussuf (The son of Joseph), because they take prophets as holy men (Same as mads are holy for the Islam). Of course they deny any other doctrine about God than the one established by Muhammad, since he came after Christ and was the definitive prophet :88)

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish
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Is this really news to you? Really?!?!?!?!
The old testament again? What happened to the New Testament? Jesus a false prophet?

We all know the Bible is the Truth, now therefore the teachings of Jesus in the new testament is the truth. But what your saying is (unless i read it wrong) Jesus is a false prophet. The bible also says beware of wolves in sheeps clothing.

Jesus of Nazareth is the true King of the Jews, the lord of lords. But he is not God which some believe. Hes the Son of God.

If you say Jesus is a false prophet then surely somehow God would of made sure the teachings of Jesus wasn't added.

Isn't that a bit arrogant Kiwi, to think you know what realy happens 2000 year ago?
People here on the forum quarrel about what happend yesterday. :hmm:

That's OK. Kiwi's a nice guy.

This really seems to be new information that's taken him aback somewhat and needs to be digested.

But I have a hunch what's going to follow and I can't hang around to respond right now.

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 01:27 PM

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Isn't that a bit arrogant Kiwi, to think you know what realy happens 2000 year ago?
People here on the forum quarrel about what happend yesterday.
Read the new testament. Jesus of Nazareth.... I dont think i know thats why im asking questions and Avon is being patient with my questions... so far.

And Avon there are christain Jews that live up my street, they also call themselves....Jews. I just got to remeber there are two different types.

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 01:27 PM

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An entirely different matter is the authenticity and reasonability of the old testament (Which christians share with jews) and the leading idea on it about God being the God only (Or mainly) for the jews, and against their enemies.

This is highly erroneous. Every human being is invited to honor G-d and obey his will. And this does not require non-Jews becoming Jews. See The 7 Noachide Laws.

/must stop responding..................... :damn:

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 01:30 PM

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And Avon there are christain Jews that live up my street, they also call themselves....Jews. I just got to remeber there are two different types.

Yes. They call themselves Jews for Jesus, an oxymoron, as I've tried to point out.

Fish 11-14-05 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005
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Isn't that a bit arrogant Kiwi, to think you know what realy happens 2000 year ago?
People here on the forum quarrel about what happend yesterday.
Read the new testament. Jesus of Nazareth.... I dont think i know thats why im asking questions and Avon is being patient with my questions... so far.

And Avon there are christain Jews that live up my street, they also call themselves....Jews. I just got to remeber there are two different types.

I read the new testament, and now what? :hmm:

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 01:35 PM

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I read the new testament, and now what
Not the rastafarian testament, The greek version.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Anyways Avon is gone therefore i have no more questions.

Fish 11-14-05 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005
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I read the new testament, and now what
Not the rastafarian testament, The greek version.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Anyways Avon is gone therefore i have no more questions.

Did that too, Dutch translation that is. :shifty:

Oberon 11-14-05 01:41 PM

When you die, it's simple.

There's a big black void, stretching to infinity in all directions, and in the middle of that black void in huge white letters is the following:


GAME OVER.

NEW GAME?

Y/N

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 01:43 PM

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must stop responding.....................
Yes lets stop. Im off to the SH3 threads to vent my confusion out on some newbie n00b thats just signed up. :|\

micky1up 11-14-05 01:54 PM

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easy i get reborn as danni minogues dildo :lol: :up:

So you believe in reincarnation ? Returning as a dildo in your next life would definitely be a major step up for you, even though it'd mean Danni Minogue will be over 70 years old by then :rotfl:


well knowing u my friend u will come back as an american and then promptley by numerous hand guns and assualt rifles to protect yourself and your property from the raiding indians :lol:

Wim Libaers 11-14-05 05:17 PM

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:) If reincarnation was true then the population of the world would remain constant??????????

Only if you assume that every single soul always reincarnates instantly, and that there is a constant number of them.



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Not sure yet, maybe just maybe I'll convert to Islam shortly before my expected death, indiscriminately kill a bunch of women and children in another country to please my God and prophet, after which I soon collect my 72 virgins reward. Nothing but well-deserved relaxation says the Imam, strictly for true believers!
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Please put a warning on the General Topic Forum when you plan to die... :D

Why do you worry? He clearly states "in another country", and you're both in the Netherlands, no?

It would be good if Flanders and the Netherlands were reunited. then I could stop worrying about him too :rotfl:




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There must be more to it than just living 70 odd yrs on this earth then dieing and thats it, we cease to exist. This universe we live in is billions of yrs old yet man only gets to live a fraction of it? And for what purpose. So we're born, we grow up fall in love have children live a few more yrs then we're old and our time is up only to turned to dust or ash and thats it! We will never see our children again and they will never see there parents again. Thats too depressing.

So, because it is too unpleasant, it cannot be true?



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This is highly erroneous. Every human being is invited to honor G-d and obey his will. And this does not require non-Jews becoming Jews. See The 7 Noachide Laws.

/must stop responding..................... :damn:

If I read that correctly, it doesn't require believing in God, just absence of active opposition?

Rockstar 11-14-05 08:31 PM

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one question you dont have to answer straight away, maybe when the sydrome clears. How do Jews today see Jesus as? The Son of God or just a messenger of God or God himself.

Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it.

If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,

and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them,"

you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul.

- Deuteronomy 13:1-4

The epitomy of the Torah's definition of a false profit. A phoney baloney, plain and simple. One of numerous at the time. Nothing special about him. Just another guy. He's all yours!

Is this really news to you? Really?!?!?!?! :o


In this chapter of Deuteronomy the Israelites are taught how to discern a false prophet.

Where in the New Testement does Jesus Christ claim to serve or tempt others to chase after false gods?

You have the law but what does the law prove? That all and I mean all both Jew and Gentile are guilty before God. And if guilty then deserving death for it is written the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ.

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Sharkstooth 11-14-05 08:44 PM

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I'm ignorant. Can you explane what Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is? Does it have something to do with sharing a car to avoid paying toll for a tunnel (and save the environment)?
:up: you've pegged it exactly Abraham.
(btw... love your av...is almost like I'm standing right there watching you look out over the water or somethin.... :P )

Rockstar 11-14-05 08:47 PM

whoops almost forgot :)

Scripturally what happens after you die?

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

No parties, no wine, women or song, just darkness, torment, forever alone, no companionship, apart from God for eternity.

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


Very much a place I would hope you would like to be. But there is only one way, a narrow path the width of one man, Jesus Christ.

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.


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