Neither of the two birth certificates have "African-American" on them. In fact, neither of them list his race at all. :O:

Hush you! Don't let facts get in the way!:stare:

But it really wasn't verified until after the fact and only after letting the issue burn for a very long time. That more than anything else is what has given the story it's legs. Remember this is the President who claimed to want to bring more transparency to the office. Remember also that it was Hillary Clinton supporters who first made these accusations to help prop up her failed primary challenge and are the origin of many of the false rumors that surround the controversy.

Well August that cuts both ways.

If you cater to the crackpot racist fringe who blathered on about birth certificates and released everything they ask for, then you're rewarding such behaviour.

If you shut down and refuse to engage with such silliness, then they receive the blessing of official silence, "WHAT OBAMA DOESN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT..." etc.

I was wrong but so are you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_854248.html

Race of Father - African << a nationality is not a race and the correct terminology used in 1961 to describe a black mans race is "black"
or "negro"

Race of Mother - Caucasian << also a term not in use at the time, you were "white" or "black", not African or Caucasian


im not saying he is or isn't born here, im just saying its clear the birth certificate was "recreated" at a much later date is all.

maybe there was a fire and the original was lost so one had to be created to satisfy the need to "show proof" but the document produced as proof is not a genuine document that was created at the time of his birth.

I will let you guys argue what that means or doesn't mean as far as the argument goes.

personally I think it was just a replacement document or one that they had created just for political expediency and no one realized the politically correct terminology used today would give it away as not being original.

I think the birth certificate is 100% not the one created when he was born but I also don't think it means he isn't a citizen, it just means he cant find or get a copy of his original birth certificate.

You're still wrong.

"African" isn't a nationality.

Get it together.

http://www.africaisacontinent.com/co...nation-disease

http://www.africaisacontinent.com/

according to the dictionary:

Full Definition of

AFRICAN

: a native or inhabitant of Africa


: a person who is of African ancestry regardless of race or ethnicity

Yes Webster.

Was there anything else?

you tell me

according to you my birth certificate should list my race as america

Alright, have some snopes and stop being....whatever the word for believing bat-guano rubbish is.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp




Give that reasoning another try. Or don't. Who cares?

ok, i'll see your biased link and raise you another biased link that claims obamas lawyers admitted in court under oath that the birth certificate was faked.

http://www.occupycorporatism.com/oba...icate-is-fake/

we can do this all day but what is the point? It doesn't matter if obama is from here or not, he is the president even if he is an alien from outer space so who cares? I sure don't and have said so repeatedly.

those of you who have a vested interest in believing one way or the other will never look at anything objectively, that is all I am doing and all I said was the birth certificate they produced is not the one created at the time of his birth, I never said it wasn't real.

Mother of Christ, that's not how an argument is supposed to work!

If you consider my source to be biased, then go right ahead and demonstrate it. Don't blindly assert it.

And whatever you do, don't proceeed under the assumption that "an eye for an eye" is the way to go when trying to resolve a factual matter.

That your link is biased is clearly obvious. It makes a claim and never asserts it. I should know, I read the damn thing. It's a stupid article written by either a stupid person, or one pretending to be.

Don't link stuff like that. TRY.

I don't see how the one I provided is biased, though. Elucidate. Enlighten. Tell me why you think it's biased.

In short,

LERN 2 INTERNET

Although you have arrived at a good point. We could indeed do this all day. If that's a disincentive we can stop.

In the interest of reducing the amount of BS clogging up our dear old internet, then, let's revisit some of the other odious rubbish that you've been making up this evening.

Considering there were 11 million total undocumented immigrants in 2012, I'd consider that quite a spike!

Or possibly the words of someone who hasn't the faintest clue what he's talking about.

like bill Clinton so elegantly put it, it all depends on what your definition of is is :D

I do not entertain myself by arguing minutia on forums and parsing words to infinity to stretch some form of it to fit my argument or claims.

I could care less and am laughing at the stupidity of all this.

if you want to argue just for the sake of arguing go find someone equally as bored who has nothing to do but search the internet for points and counter points lol.

I realize GT is a place for bored people to argue endlessly about and for nothing but I don't see any point in wasting time arguing about something that doesnt matter, hasn't mattered, and nothing can be done about if you had more proof then god himself testifying and video proof to back it up. even if Obama went on TV and said it was a fake you would still be unable to do anything about it :har:

omg this is so funny you put so much effort into nothing lol. might as well start a chicken or the egg argument next, it will be just as pointless.

I cant imagine how much you would want to argue if I thought Obama wasn't a US citizen, you might pop a blood vessel or something :har:

Oh for God's sake.


Have some self-respect.