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Tribesman 12-16-13 02:29 AM

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Ugh, there is a difference, that is a simplistic, and inaccurate comparison. Intent is one thing, ever here of malice aforethought?
malice aforethought?
that's what he had when he chose to put the key in the ignition.

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the fact he killed 4 people will haunt him the rest of his life.
Why? they were only peasants and his defence is that he doesn't think he was doing anything wrong.

TarJak 12-16-13 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2139077)
Someone causes a wreck and is actually drunk, okay they deserve punishment,

The difference bubbles is how much money his parents have. That's his defence.

Wolferz 12-16-13 05:25 AM

Sixteen and bulletproof
 
With a vest made of mommy and daddy's money.
I suspect the judge was paid a sum handsome enough to retire on.:-?

It just goes to show that life isn't fair. Especially if you're a peon with no money. The victims of this wealthy "Brat" will just have to sue the insurance company and wait ten years for a decision. The only winners in this will be the blood sucking attorneys.:down:
IMHO, the parents should have been the ones on trial for the kid's stupidity.

vienna 12-16-13 03:32 PM

This article about Judge Jean Boyd, who sentenced Ethan Crouch, is interesting:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ju...n-2012-110746/


Also, interesting is the fact Boyd had already spoken of her intention to retire before the sentencing; did she have a sudden addition to her retirement "nest egg"?; or, perhaps, she will now go on to a non-judicial elective office with the suport of some deep pocket "contributor"? This fish smells from the head down...


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Father Goose 12-16-13 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2152403)
This article about Judge Jean Boyd, who sentenced Ethan Crouch, is interesting:

Also, interesting is the fact Boyd had already spoken of her attention to retire before the sentencing; did she have a sudden addition to her retirement "nest egg"?; or, perhaps, she will now go on to a non-judicial elective office with the suport of some deep pocket "contributor"? This fish smells from the head down...

Some form of a "retirement gift" probably has/will occur.
Investigators should follow up on this. Pretty bad smell. :Kaleun_Sick:

Jimbuna 12-16-13 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2152086)
I ask that you remain fair and not censor me on your incorrect perception of beliefs, simply because you disagree.I sent you a PM to discuss this further.

I have responded to your PM as has the site owner also...a formal ending of the matter.

Kptlt. Neuerburg 12-18-13 11:40 AM

Recent developments: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53859166#.UrHPPU2A2Ah

TarJak 12-18-13 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg (Post 2153108)

It would add insult to injury if he escaped jail for pa second time on the same defense.

Bubblehead1980 12-18-13 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg (Post 2153108)


Okay, that is absolute garbage.The case has been closed, he has been sentenced.The DA is just pandering to outrage now, abuse of power.Luckily, this boy's family has the money to fight it and will likely be able to stop this abuse of power.Amazes me how sheeple go along with government abuse of power when it suits them.

Buddahaid 12-18-13 04:31 PM

Call me a sheeple if you want to but justice was not blind in this case due to family wealth.
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Sailor Steve 12-18-13 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2153196)
Amazes me how sheeple go along with government abuse of power when it suits them.

It amazes me how you always manage to fall into the same rut.

Four people are dead. Forever. Their families will never know their love again. This "boy" gets sent to summer camp as punishment. That's okay with you because he's rich. Being rich made him do it, so it's not his fault. He didn't know he was too young to be drinking, period. He didn't know that it's illegal to take certain drugs, period. It's not his fault, because daddy has enough money to say it's not his fault.

Don't forget that this "innocent child" is only one year younger than that "thug" Trayvon Martin. Of course you'll jump onto the "no comparison" bandwagon, but my point is not to compare them. My point is to point out that you condemn one and defend the other not because of any difference, but because your opinion of one is different from your opinion of the other. The problem is that you continue to see your opinion as fact, and it's not.

The article you condemn is about whether the judge may or may not have been bought. That remains to be seen. What is obvious is that you will scream to the high heavens over something that you think is wrong, but will defend to the death something you agree with. There would be nothing wrong with that if you were capable of having an actual discussion, but anything you disagree with is "absolute nonsense". When are you finally going to learn that actual fact and your opinion are not the same thing?

Mr Quatro 12-18-13 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg (Post 2153108)

Thanks for the link ...

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If Couch violates the terms of his probation, he could be sent to prison for 10 years.

Under Texas juvenile law, the maximum allowable sentence in Couch's intoxication assault case would be three years in a Texas Juvenile Justice Department facility; he would be released no later than his 19th birthday.

Jimbuna 12-18-13 05:34 PM

I'll come back to this tomorrow (should I feel it appropriate) but it is beginning to look like reasonable advice and guidance/suggestions are yet again going unheeded.

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August 12-18-13 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2153196)
Okay, that is absolute garbage.The case has been closed, he has been sentenced.The DA is just pandering to outrage now, abuse of power.Luckily, this boy's family has the money to fight it and will likely be able to stop this abuse of power.Amazes me how sheeple go along with government abuse of power when it suits them.

I don't understand. You claim to be training to become a lawyer so why didn't you notice that there were six people killed/injured in the incident? Your boy has only stood trial for four of them.

What about the other two?

Bubblehead1980 12-18-13 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2153219)
It amazes me how you always manage to fall into the same rut.

Four people are dead. Forever. Their families will never know their love again. This "boy" gets sent to summer camp as punishment. That's okay with you because he's rich. Being rich made him do it, so it's not his fault. He didn't know he was too young to be drinking, period. He didn't know that it's illegal to take certain drugs, period. It's not his fault, because daddy has enough money to say it's not his fault.

Don't forget that this "innocent child" is only one year younger than that "thug" Trayvon Martin. Of course you'll jump onto the "no comparison" bandwagon, but my point is not to compare them. My point is to point out that you condemn one and defend the other not because of any difference, but because your opinion of one is different from your opinion of the other. The problem is that you continue to see your opinion as fact, and it's not.

The article you condemn is about whether the judge may or may not have been bought. That remains to be seen. What is obvious is that you will scream to the high heavens over something that you think is wrong, but will defend to the death something you agree with. There would be nothing wrong with that if you were capable of having an actual discussion, but anything you disagree with is "absolute nonsense". When are you finally going to learn that actual fact and your opinion are not the same thing?


I am not defending him or his actions, but defending the sentence against the tide of emotional knee jerk responses that have been put forth to his sentence.Also, disgusted by the "class warfare" crap hearing on here, oh he's rich blah blah.

Being spoiled, entitled etc certainly played a role in things, but being a 16 year old, who like most do no fully understand the consequences etc of their actions.Does it excuse him? No, but should he go to prison for 20 years? Absolutely not.I explained why, that our prisons are about revenge and punishment, not punishment and rehabilitation and that no good would come out of him going to prison.

Show me evidence the judge was paid off? That is all "rich hatred" fueled speculation.

I recall saying that Martin case was sad because he was young, and did not know any better, but that does no change the fact he was bashing zimmerman's head in and Zimmerman defended himself with his firearm, that is what the evidence shows.Martin was trying to be a thug, he used a racist term according to his girlfriend.Shame he did not survive the incident and grow from it, but that is what happens.Ethan Couch made a dumb mistake as well, that cost four people their lives and is being punished accordingly and reasonably for someone his age.


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