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Father Goose 12-04-13 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2148120)
The man is a native of Honduras, has multiple misdemeanor criminal charges and has been arraigned, currently has no bond and is awaiting his next court appearance.I have a meeting with the prosecutor next week and plan to be the biggest pain in the rear to ensure he gets the max and will do my best ot make sure he is deported after, perhaps border will be secured so he can't get back and hurt anyone else who actually belongs here.This weekend going to put together my letters to both Senators, my Congressmen and some media outlets, hoping to to help bring attention to the issue.While it may not do anything, have to try.

I didn't realize he was still in custody with no bond set. If that's the case, I stand corrected, he may actually be accountable for his actions to some degree. I am confident if he is released, you will never see him again.

He probably doesn't have the means to make you and your girlfriend "whole" so her insurance will have to take care of the car. Thankfully neither one of you were injured.

I hesitate to mention this with fear of spiking your blood pressure...it's possible before this comes to trial that Dingy Harry and the Dems will grant him amnesty and you'll be in court with a fellow American. :eek:

Tribesman 12-05-13 03:04 AM

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Still dodging?
Yep, still dodging.:yep:

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The policy covers all drivers except those specifically excluded, ie by name.
Are you trying to say that insurance companies issue policies which exclude only named individuals rather than categories of individuals:rotfl2:


@ razark.
I am just waiting to see how long he continues to dodge the question.
He knows what the question is and what the implications of it are.
And despite what he just wrote, he also knows about the mandatory requirements when it comes to insurance for people with prior.

Sailor Steve 12-05-13 03:50 AM

This seems to have started here:
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2147218)
The irony being that there were two DUIs involved in this incident.
What would be really ironic is if one of the DUIs wasn't covered on his girlfriends car insurance.

Bubblehead says that the party who hit them was drunk. Where does this "two DUIs" thing come from? I see that you keep insisting that Bubblehead knows what you're talking about.

For the sake of those of us who don't have a clue, could you please explain it in plain English, without the innuendo and inferences?

Bubblehead1980 12-05-13 04:34 AM

I think tribes is trying to reference my past concerning DUI which I may have mentioned on here before.I have had a DUI arrest back in my early 20's, so he is trying to say because of that, I had no right to be operating my girlfriend's car as a weak counter point to me saying the illegal immigrant had no right to be here since he is an, illegal immigrant lol.Like on many occasions, tribes is incorrect and simply trolling out of a personal vendetta but oh well.The claims process is complete, adjuster she will be getting a check either friday or monday so they had no problems with me being behind the wheel, esp since it was in no way, shape, or form my fault.

Bubblehead1980 12-05-13 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Father Goose (Post 2148135)
I didn't realize he was still in custody with no bond set. If that's the case, I stand corrected, he may actually be accountable for his actions to some degree. I am confident if he is released, you will never see him again.

He probably doesn't have the means to make you and your girlfriend "whole" so her insurance will have to take care of the car. Thankfully neither one of you were injured.

I hesitate to mention this with fear of spiking your blood pressure...it's possible before this comes to trial that Dingy Harry and the Dems will grant him amnesty and you'll be in court with a fellow American. :eek:

Well I did not either until talked to the officer, who told me what he could.Took a while to ID the guy, he was booked as a john doe initially.Now, they know who he is, he is on no bond thankfully.

I am sure he is broke as can be and it's not about the money really, it's about the risk we were put at by someone who had no right to even be in the same country as us.I am glad we are okay but it's still just aggravating.

Well I am hoping I can get someone in the media to get our story out there to bring attention, of course I am sure one of us would have to be dead or close to it to really get it used to make a poing.This is just yet another example of why we must secure border and not offer amnesty.

Well the house is unlikely to go along with obama immigration "reform", base would abandon them if they did.The house may catch a lot of flak,I am thankful for the Republican controlled house everyday, able to stop much of the idiocy obama and the senate try to shove through, just too bad they did not have the numbers to stop obamacare back in 2010.

Tribesman 12-05-13 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2148170)
This seems to have started here:

Bubblehead says that the party who hit them was drunk. Where does this "two DUIs" thing come from? I see that you keep insisting that Bubblehead knows what you're talking about.

For the sake of those of us who don't have a clue, could you please explain it in plain English, without the innuendo and inferences?

Well the "two DUIs" would come from bubbles previously mentioning his DUI conviction on this forum.
It really is that simple, though a little knowledge of what omissions from declarations will make insurance policies null and void is needed to join the dots


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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2148175)
I think tribes is trying to reference my past concerning DUI which I may have mentioned on here before.I have had a DUI arrest back in my early 20's, so he is trying to say because of that, I had no right to be operating my girlfriend's car as a weak counter point to me saying the illegal immigrant had no right to be here since he is an, illegal immigrant lol.Like on many occasions, tribes is incorrect and simply trolling out of a personal vendetta but oh well.

So now bubbles as that is cleared up, did you really think you could keep dodging the truth?
So.....
Are DUIs a category of person who are, as standard, specifically excluded from such open permission insurance policies as your girlfriend has. Unless of course they are specifically named and their history declared to the insurance company, and their 22 is in place and the policy is loaded with extra premium to cover that particular individual because of their history of ignoring the laws which cover vehicular use on public roads regardless of immigrant status.

Since you know all of it is true, then the simple fact which you foolishly tried to dodge is that you had no right to be sat where you was at the time of the incident.
So in future either pay the penalty for your earlier law breaking, by paying the premium to make her insurance valid, or don't get behind the wheel of a car when you are not covered.

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The claims process is complete, adjuster she will be getting a check either friday or monday so they had no problems with me being behind the wheel, esp since it was in no way, shape, or form my fault
Are they aware of your conviction for drunk driving?
If not you just added fraud to your list of crimes:yep:
What was it you said earlier about criminals ....
This shows he has absolutely no respect for our country, it's laws, the rights of the actual citizens etc:hmmm:

Bubblehead1980 12-05-13 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2148192)
Well the "two DUIs" would come from bubbles previously mentioning his DUI conviction on this forum.
It really is that simple, though a little knowledge of what omissions from declarations will make insurance policies null and void is needed to join the dots



So now bubbles as that is cleared up, did you really think you could keep dodging the truth?
So.....
Are DUIs a category of person who are, as standard, specifically excluded from such open permission insurance policies as your girlfriend has. Unless of course they are specifically named and their history declared to the insurance company, and their 22 is in place and the policy is loaded with extra premium to cover that particular individual because of their history of ignoring the laws which cover vehicular use on public roads regardless of immigrant status.

Since you know all of it is true, then the simple fact which you foolishly tried to dodge is that you had no right to be sat where you was at the time of the incident.
So in future either pay the penalty for your earlier law breaking, by paying the premium to make her insurance valid, or don't get behind the wheel of a car when you are not covered.

Are they aware of your conviction for drunk driving?
If not you just added fraud to your list of crimes:yep:
What was it you said earlier about criminals ....
This shows he has absolutely no respect for our country, it's laws, the rights of the actual citizens etc:hmmm:


That has to be one of the most ignorant things I have heard you say lol I am really laughing right now yet it is sad how you allow your personal issues with me to affect you on this forum since it's apples and oranges.I was never dodging the issue but you have tried your best to claim I was not sure what you were referencing since it really is irrelevant and you were too much of a, well you would not just say it.Arguing I had no right to be there and compare it to an illegal immigrant having no right to be in the country, that is a huge stretch and absolute garbage.I had EVERY right to be there as a legal citizen of this country, every right to be in that car as I have a valid driver's license, the vehicle was insured.

Also, I will be nice since you are from another country and all. and clearly do not understand some things.Since my DUI was a long time ago, this is not valid but afterward for a couple years was required to carry a special policy, SR-22 or FR-22, can't remember which one it was, but it covers the individual, no matter what vehicle, so if this was several years back, vehicle would still be covered even if her policy did not.However, since it's been quite a while, no longer required to carry that insurance. Fraud? lol you just get more and more sad.There would be no intent there but aside from that, I am covered.Not required to tell them that and no doubt that are aware as claim has been processed and expect check for repairs tomorrow or monday.Aside from that, accident was in no way my fault.Even if the policy did not cover me, which it does, what woudl it matter? I still have a right to be there in her car and it was the stupid illegal's fault for hitting us.All of that aside, you are distracting from the real issue.An idiot who had not one right to be even near us, hit us in a parked car and could have seriously injured or killed us, salt in the wound that he is an illegal immigrant and should not have been in the country, let alone on that street that night.This is the issue, how two actual citizens, with every right to be where we were, we put in danger by this degenerate.

Always amusing when you try to use past remarks against me, knowing you are taking it out of context.I was saying an illegal immigrant being here, is showing has no respect for our country's sovereignty and immigration laws.Some people have no respect for the laws but comparing a kid in early 20's who gets a DUI to an illegal immigrant, again is just not a valid comparison. Arguing with you is pointless, you are a troll but can't let your ignorance stand so oh well.

vienna 12-05-13 01:37 PM

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Always amusing when you try to use past remarks against me, knowing you are taking it out of context.I was saying an illegal immigrant being here, is showing has no respect for our country's sovereignty and immigration laws.Some people have no respect for the laws but comparing a kid in early 20's who gets a DUI to an illegal immigrant, again is just not a valid comparison. Arguing with you is pointless, you are a troll but can't let your ignorance stand so oh well.
So, let's get this straight: being a driver in his early 20's, a citizen of the US, who is fully cognizant of the laws pertaining to the safe operation of a vehicle, who is operating a vehicle while impaired and certainly impaired enough to warrant the issuance of a DUI citation is actually showing respect for the laws of the nation/state even though he is in violation of the laws, showing no respect for the safety of others and endagering lives and property? Or is it as you yourself said:

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Some people have no respect for the laws...
Just wondering...


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Ducimus 12-05-13 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2148120)
They finally were able to establish his identity, he is an illegal who has been deported once, five years ago.The man is a native of Honduras, has multiple misdemeanor criminal charges and has been arraigned, currently has no bond and is awaiting his next court appearance.

I've been to that area of Central America before. I gotta tell ya, it's a real schittehole.

Tribesman 12-05-13 02:21 PM

Young man, how old are you?
Exactly how many years have passed since your conviction in your early 20s and now when you have just reached your mid 20s.
For how many years after conviction do insurance companies require full disclosure of previous motoring offences, especially drink driving convictions, for any vehicle which they are providing cover for?
Do you understand that you aare also supposed to declare a DUI on any life insurance policy you carry?(apparently drink driving affects your life expectancy):yep:

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Even if the policy did not cover me, which it does, what woudl it matter?
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
It matters because it affects your right to be where you was, doing what you was doing


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I still have a right to be there in her car and it was the stupid illegal's fault for hitting us
Not in the drivers seat you don't.

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This is the issue, how two actual citizens, with every right to be where we were, we put in danger by this degenerate.
Yes, drunk drivers are not very nice or responsible people, they are rather foolish selfish criminals.
Remind me again. What was your conviction for?:hmmm:

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Some people have no respect for the laws but comparing a kid in early 20's who gets a DUI to an illegal immigrant, again is just not a valid comparison.
I was comparing a drink driver with a drink driver, the law is the same regardless of immigration status

So since you are having problems understanding that your privilege is not a right, letsgo futher, all those other traffic violations you have got ticketed for, did you declare those to the insurance company?
It is required you know even if you don't accumulate enough in the 3 time periods to get a suspension
Now of course me just being a foreigner and knowing nuffin bout nuffin could you fill in a few local details.
All these traffic offences you have in addition to your drink driving, how far off are you from being classed as a habitual by your States licensing authority, which would be your Dept. of Highway Satety and Motor Vehicles in case you forgot

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Fraud? lol you just get more and more sad.There would be no intent there
Oh dear.
Have you ever considered reading the declaration people sign on insurance documents?
Its all written there very plainly

vienna 12-05-13 02:49 PM

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Always amusing when you try to use past remarks against me...

...and always so easy to do so; you really make it no effort at all...


Carry on, Tribesman, you are doing quite well for an 'ignorant troll'...


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Bubblehead1980 12-05-13 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2148319)
Young man, how old are you?
Exactly how many years have passed since your conviction in your early 20s and now when you have just reached your mid 20s.
For how many years after conviction do insurance companies require full disclosure of previous motoring offences, especially drink driving convictions, for any vehicle which they are providing cover for?
Do you understand that you aare also supposed to declare a DUI on any life insurance policy you carry?(apparently drink driving affects your life expectancy):yep:

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
It matters because it affects your right to be where you was, doing what you was doing


Not in the drivers seat you don't.

Yes, drunk drivers are not very nice or responsible people, they are rather foolish selfish criminals.
Remind me again. What was your conviction for?:hmmm:

I was comparing a drink driver with a drink driver, the law is the same regardless of immigration status

So since you are having problems understanding that your privilege is not a right, letsgo futher, all those other traffic violations you have got ticketed for, did you declare those to the insurance company?
It is required you know even if you don't accumulate enough in the 3 time periods to get a suspension
Now of course me just being a foreigner and knowing nuffin bout nuffin could you fill in a few local details.
All these traffic offences you have in addition to your drink driving, how far off are you from being classed as a habitual by your States licensing authority, which would be your Dept. of Highway Satety and Motor Vehicles in case you forgot


Oh dear.
Have you ever considered reading the declaration people sign on insurance documents?
Its all written there very plainly


LOL I am not classified as a habitual traffic offender, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Once again, you are trying to divert.The guy was an illegal, he had no right to even be in the country, where I as I had every right to be where I was and was driving .Asserted I had no right to be there, when I am a citizen, in my girlfriend's car, with her permission and not excluded from her insurance, is just one of the most ridiculous things you have said.

Anyways, an illegal immigrant, illegally operating a motor vehicle caused the crash and is jail and plan to do everything possible to see he serves jail time and then is sent back to the hole he crawled out of, where he belongs.Everything else is you trying to "muddy the waters" and distract.I made the post because we had just been in a discussion over the topic of illegal immigration and felt it was warranted to mention it, since I am now a victim of this massive problem.

Bubblehead1980 12-05-13 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2148333)
...and always so easy to do so; you really make it no effort at all...


Carry on, Tribesman, you are doing quite well for an 'ignorant troll'...


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Says you, not that difficult to take remarks out of context.I was referring to an illegal immigrant, is by just being in the country, is ALWAYS disrespecting the law.I drove after a few drinks years ago, so it was more a temporary disrespect for the laws pertaining to DUI.Some laws are unjust, and therefore are no laws at all ie obamacare .Tribes, like you, has a personal agenda here.Again, distracting the real issue, illegal immigration, of which I became even more of a victim.All of us are victims by their undercutting of the labor market, their drain on the system...schools, hospitals, jails, etc but now, myself and someone I care about have been victimized further to where our physical health and lives were threatened by someone who had no right to even be in the country.How you people can okay with an illegal immigrant doing such a thing, is beyond me or anyone else with sense.

AVGWarhawk 12-05-13 02:59 PM

Tribesman:
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Young man, how old are you?
Exactly how many years have passed since your conviction in your early 20s and now when you have just reached your mid 20s.
For how many years after conviction do insurance companies require full disclosure of previous motoring offences, especially drink driving convictions, for any vehicle which they are providing cover for?
Do you understand that you aare also supposed to declare a DUI on any life insurance policy you carry?(apparently drink driving affects your life expectancy
PBJ does not show anything on your record nor does anyone who has a PBJ on a DUI have to divulge the occurrence to any entity.

Perhaps Bubs was issued a PBJ? Not sure if he was convicted. He does not state as such.

Bubblehead1980 12-05-13 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2148307)
I've been to that area of Central America before. I gotta tell ya, it's a real schittehole.


I understand that, an am not without sympathy.However, we can not give these people a free pass and allow so many here, most of them frankly have nothing to offer this country, they simply consume our resources and then individuals such as the fool who crashed into us, cause more than economic harm, they actually put the lives of people who have a right to be here in danger.Countless stories over the years about illegals raping, murdering, robbing etc.Sure, citizens do that but it's even more of a travesty when someone who has absolutely no right to be in this country to begin with, commits such a heinous crime on an american citizen.

The Edwin Ramos case in San Francisco always sticks out.Ramos is an illegal immigrant from el salvador and member of MS-13.Ramos had killed before and was in the country illegally. Ramos shot and killed a man and his two sons in a road rage incident.This scum should not have even been in the country to commit such a crime.

There was a rape case in my hometown a few years ago, illegal immigrant raped as 12 year old girl, again, should not have been here.These scenarios repeat themselves countless times across this country, it's just ridiculous.Fact is, some people belong here, some do not.


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