NWO. todays secret UN army has black helicopters. Lincoln had a black hat, its the advances in technology you see.
Abraham had a stealth stovepipe which probably contained a stealth mobile telegraph mast which sent out mind altering morse to unsuspecting patriots.

:har::har: That was hilarious

Wouldn't you say Steve, that a lot of the decisions to remove someone from his command, might need the approval of the Sec of the Army, Sec of the Navy , Sec of the Air Force etc? I wonder if the JCS have anything to do with these type of command decisions concerning personnel?

Depends on the situation but if a military member violates the UCMJ and is found guilty in that case it is the JAG that has the power and they are not appointed by the President.Such things are not under the realm of responsibility of the JCS.JCS serve as military advisers to the President this would be in the area of defense not personal so no to your question.

An officer can loose his or her commission by failing to meet and follow the standards of behavior(which are known to all) as well again this is an action performed by the military not the President nor his administration.It is just that simple nearly every single flag officer that has been relived of command post WWII it was for this reason otherwise they where directly courts marshaled for something.

Again you guys need to do some reading on how the military operates it is very different from the civilian world.

I do not recall ever saying a thing about black helicopters or obama being an actual muslim.I believe obama is an atheist(as I am), religion is a tool for him as it is for many politicians.However, he does have unusually strong ties and feelings for the muslim world due to his background.Nothing wrong with being one of the "good" muslims, they do exist, but it would definitely be a conflict of interest to be the US president and a muslim.Really, his islamic sympathies comes pretty close at times to compromising his judgement at times.Supporting the muslim brotherhood for example? Then he does things like allegedly allowing bin laden to be killed(I find that episode suspect, never showed pictures, videos of his body etc, then quick burial, excuse was islamic tradition? Proving this to the American people definitely outweighs islamic tradition) and drone strikes, so obviously it does not cloud his judgement to the extreme point but it does enough, with issues such as Israel and the naivete being showing towards Iran right now. Again, I hate to not trust my government and president on even most basic things, but they have abused everyone's

What some mock as conspiracy is more of a political long game than anything, which the left is great at.They might not what they want when they want it, but they will fester a while until they can. I just find it suspicious that suddenly these high ranking officers are having all these problems and being dismissed.One or two, maybe when for myself and many, it sets alarms off. I probably would not worry as much if it were another president but barry has shown a tendency to do some dirty, unconstitutional, things so his government has to be watched more than normal.

Really, the whole point was this is highly suspect and not sure how anyone other than a blind supporter could not be troubled by this. I hope some of them step forward soon and tell the story.

Right.So every other person that posted in this thread is a blind supporter.:yep:

I see the light now you have saved me from logic.

I have not wanted to say anything until now but over the past few months microwave beamed thoughts have bombarded my brain.At first I thought perhaps I was in need
of psychotropic medication.Now I realize that Obama is sending these beams into my brain.Thanks to you though they no longer work and now I can see and am no longer blind.

I can not wait until Obama leaves office and nothing happens what will you come up with then?:hmmm:

I think honestly that you post these threads purely for the attention that they get and that you truly do not actually believe most of this nonsense that you post.

Disliking a politician is one thing but the things you talk about I have a very hard time believing that a reasonably thinking person could possibly believe them.

They were, as Rush would say, illustrating absurdity with absurdity.

You're changing the subject. You still haven't shown a bit of evidence that these disciplinary actions are anything other than what they seem to be.

This is because you already believe it, and want to believe it. Anything that happens in the upper echelons must be the doing of the president. He is already evil, so of course he's behind all this. Not all prejudice is racial.

You admit your bias, and how it controls your every thought, and you again try to condemn with insulting dimunitives. You also still haven't shown any evidence for your claims.

And again you say that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "blind supporter". You can't even talk about this without trying to shape it to fit your own emotional outlook. I'm still waiting for you to address any political topic without prior bias and prejudice.

Same old same old. You'll be waiting for a long time I suspect Steve. Bubbles previous shows he is either incapable or unwilling to provide any cogent argument to support his theories.

I hope that I am wrong, I hope he is a lame duck for the rest of his term, leaves office peacefully and is remembered as a disgrace like jimmy carter.I have explained myself a million times, you and few of your cohorts disagree, so you deflect with sarcasm etc. Really though, I hope I am wrong, for all of our sakes.

My "bias" aside, how can anyone, given the dishonesty of the government in general, especially the current one, not find this suspect that he dismisses so many high ranking officers? When I say "blind", I mean it seems so many are blind to who this guy is.I was open to him and liked him back in 2008 until I read his book, Wright, Ayers etc came out.Then, he won so I gave him a chance, the funding of stem cells, I liked that.Then he went into liberal idiotville with the stimulus, his supreme court appointments(racist like Sotomayor) etc etc and over time, his actions have confirmed that personal and ideological picture I had of him based on his book and other research.I reserved judgement for a long time, but he is exactly what I thought he is. I absolutely believe this and for attention? That is absurd.I enjoy the discussion on here, as others do, which is why we all post yes ? Stop with the personal attacks.

Please, tell me why I should trust this government? Not find the dismissal of the high ranking officers suspect? I should believe them because they said one had gambling issues? I should believe them because they said the two marine generals failed to provide adequate protection? Sounds like total bs to me. The McChrystal episode stands out the most, shows how they operate.

You shouldn't. You should never trust anyone with power. On the other hand it was the same Republicans here in Utah who had bumper stickers reading "I love my country. I don't trust the government" who supported the Patriot Act. People trust the government for the wrong reasons. Sometimes they also distrust the government for the wrong reasons.

"They" didn't "say". The man is under investigation for a very real charge. He may not be guilty. He may indeed be guilty. We don't know. That's up to the investigators to prove and a military tribunal to decide. Once again you're basing your belief or disbelief not on the facts in evidence, but on your predetermined bias. That's not good law, it's not good debate and it's not good judgement. You believe first, claim second and examine later, if at all.

One more time. McChrystal violated the UCMJ, the "bible" the military lives by. That you keep trying to make it about "they" shows that you don't understand the law at all, at least military law. You habitually accuse "them" of operating on their emotions rather than facts, but that is precisely what you are doing in the McChrystal case. That you keep making this same claim over and over again shows that your personal feelings about Obama override any chance that you will actually think about this with logic and reason. Your emotions are your guiding light here, and you keep refusing to see that.

Black helicopters are a staple of the NWO, Obamas secret army of Nazi dentists, UN army coming to take the gunz and FEMA death camps conspiracies.
Him being an actual muslim is a staple rant by those who write BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
If these are regular themes/CTs you post about and it is the language you use about these conspiracies then the associated views which comes from those sources is apt.

I'm sure that there are several people who agree that BO is a bad President but the way you approach the subject puts people off because many of the threads you start come from a position of of such vitriolic hate. Combine that with using some very suspect sources and poorly researched arguments means that many who agree won't support your outbursts and those that don't will take the piss out of you.

I could care less about BO and whomever your mob vote dor but I enjoy jumping all over a poor argument if nothing else but to get the level of discussion up to something that resembles cogent thought.

Why not, he has plenty of subscribers.

We should have a thread for him, something apt for his theories on Obama...something like...oh, I don't know...a conspiracy theory thread, where threads like this could be merged... *hint*