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BossMark 03-21-12 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1858590)
Nope, that would make him a martyr and inspire more idiots. Let him be forgotten in a tiny cell until his existence ends naturally.

Good point, but I would just feed the piece of crap to the dogs.

Stealhead 03-21-12 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1858510)
So what is your point?
Let them organise in professional teams to crash few airplanes for example?
Its been too quiet for too long....what terror...its all just a myth right?

The guy in this case had been to Afghanistan.
His facebook page screamed jihad.
Was a member of well known radical french cell.
But...he did nothing illegal according to French law.


What is your point? I merely saying that AQ has become highly de-centralized and this makes them in many respects harder to deal with.True this person did go to the Tribal regions of Pakistan but that does not mean that they all will.Now they can simply be inspired by the AQ line of thinking and act on thier own without higher instruction and via common sources such as the internet and other means they can train themselves.

How do you come up with the idea that I think terror is a myth when am describing their new way of operating and committing terrorist acts.
You grossly misread my previous post it should appear.

Oberon 03-21-12 09:42 PM

What was that saying...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Security and vigilence is one thing, but when it erodes the essential rights of the public, when it breaks down the freedom and liberty that our forefathers fought to secure...well, then we have lost and they have won.

Back to the subject at hand, the siege continues, three explosions were heard earlier, probably stun grenades lobbed by the police to startle the guy and keep him on edge. I think basically they're going to try and wait him out rather than charge in. Which is the right move, I think, unless he's stocked up well on food and water and stimulants then he's not going to last much more than another ten hours at most before fatigue hits him hard.

MH 03-21-12 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1858847)
What was that saying...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

What was the saying...i don't know...just some other witty quote probably.

On philosophical level i agree with you though.

Oberon 03-21-12 11:55 PM

I do understand where you're coming from. AQ is far from a de-toothed tiger, and it's through vigilence, not a lack of trying, that we've avoided major terrorist attacks.

The problem comes in combatting ideology. Just how do you do that?

And how far do you go to achieve the goal?

How far is too far?

It's all very hazy, and I think that some people have taken advantage of that to move the goalposts a little, and that is worrying. It's all done with the best of intentions I'm sure...but the road to hell is paved with them.

Penguin 03-22-12 06:20 AM

looks like the guy kicked the bucket: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17473207

3 policemen wounded, one critical :shifty: - hope he won't become his last victim

I wonder if the guy had protection against flashbang/gas that he was still able to do this, guess we'll find out more about the assault in the next hours.

Jimbuna 03-22-12 06:48 AM

Reading the link of how it ended reminded me of the film Leon:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110413/

Skybird 03-22-12 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1858958)
Reading the link of how it ended reminded me of the film Leon:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110413/

Great movie that is, and some great acting. And who would have imagined what a cutie that little angry girly-beast would turn into, some years later! :)

Oberon 03-22-12 12:01 PM

EVERYONE!

:03:

Great film.

Herr-Berbunch 03-22-12 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1858962)
. . . some years later! :)

Nice covering your arse there. :03:

Skybird 03-26-12 07:55 AM

German language: an essay by Gunnar Heihnsohn on the problem of socieites encouraging single women to get chikldren to gain an income by the state for a living, the costs of this questionable practive for the community, and how this helps to increase the number of angry single young men like this terrorist was one of them.

Skybird 03-26-12 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1859067)
Nice covering your arse there. :03:

Hm? In the Star Wars movies, she was cute to the max, wasn't she?!

Tribesman 03-26-12 09:58 AM

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on the problem of socieites encouraging single women to get chikldren to gain an income
Thats interesting, where is this society that encourages single women to get pregnant?
Not stigmatising and punishing pregnacy out of wedlock isn't the same as encouraging is it. then again how comes there are all these young men in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan who go crazy jihadi...is that because their societies have social welfare payments for single mothers?

Skybird 03-28-12 05:07 PM

The father of the terrorist sues French police over his death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17544154

Well, these days everything is possible.

"Anything goes!"
http://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/...s---lyrics.jpg

Jimbuna 03-29-12 04:52 AM

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"If I were the father of such a monster, I would shut my mouth in shame," French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said on Tuesday.
Rgr that :yep:


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