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kiwi_2005 03-12-12 07:54 PM

IMHO when a soldier is diagnose with mental problems they shouldn't keep him in service the Army should send home to recover ASAP.

Skybird 03-12-12 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005 (Post 1854340)
IMHO when a soldier is diagnose with mental problems they shouldn't keep him in service the Army should send home to recover ASAP.

Up to 40% of the German soldiers returning from Afghanistan are estimated to suffer from various degrees of PTSD. That value bases on diagnosed cases and statistical estimations on people not finding their way to psychological treatement.

Comparable numbers I have read about the US forces since Iraq, too. That'S why I said back then in 2003 and later that the real number of wounded casualties amongst Americans range in the high tens of thousands, considering the rotating in and out of troops, maybe even more.

There is a reason why defence ministries absolutely hate to speak about PTSD, and play it down: casualty numbers, and money.

Tribesman 03-13-12 02:54 AM

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IMHO when a soldier is diagnose with mental problems they shouldn't keep him in service the Army should send home to recover ASAP.
Are you Bradley Mannings brief?:03:

Blood_splat 03-13-12 08:42 AM

Disposable Heroes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0kK45lVyk

This song comes to mind, when I use to listen to Metallica back in the day.

Fish 03-13-12 10:33 AM

This way the Taliban wins with two fingers in their nose.

Ducimus 03-13-12 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1854259)
Then I'm pleased it wasn't a Brit soldier...better the death penalty (if that is the outcome and a legal judgement) be carried out in his country of origin.

Ordinary, i wouldn't suggest handing the offender over for any reason. I've lived under a SOFA agreement myself. In this (extraordinary) case, the ONLY reason for my suggestion, is damage control.

Jimbuna 03-13-12 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1854603)
Ordinary, i wouldn't suggest handing the offender over for any reason. I've lived under a SOFA agreement myself. In this (extraordinary) case, the ONLY reason for my suggestion, is damage control.

Fair do's...I just shudder at the thought of handing one of our own over to the enemy...the damage is probably already out of control, bring them all home.

Ducimus 03-13-12 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1854606)
Fair do's...I just shudder at the thought of handing one of our own over to the enemy...the damage is probably already out of control, bring them all home.

Your probably right. The middle east has a long memory, it's my understanding they still make references to the crusades from the 11th through the 13th centuries. They'd probably behead you for drawing Mohammed in a cartoon, let alone burning a koran or killing families..

eddie 03-13-12 11:55 AM

The Taliban want revenge for killing innocent civilians, which we already know. But they have upped the threat, that they will behead whomever they capture. Meanwhile, a Government delegation was inspecting the area where the attack happened, and were promptly attacked by the Taliban.

And so it goes, just another day in loonie land.

August 03-13-12 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1854603)
Ordinary, i wouldn't suggest handing the offender over for any reason. I've lived under a SOFA agreement myself. In this (extraordinary) case, the ONLY reason for my suggestion, is damage control.

I think such damage control won't be very effective if at all and has to be considered versus the real damage to morale that will result by throwing a one of our own to the wolves.

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Your probably right. The middle east has a long memory, it's my understanding they still make references to the crusades from the 11th through the 13th centuries. They'd probably behead you for drawing Mohammed in a cartoon, let alone burning a koran or killing families..
Maybe we need to just burn enough Korans and make enough charactures of Mohammed that their heads explode from rage. Problem solved! :up:

Ducimus 03-13-12 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1854700)
Maybe we need to just burn enough Korans and make enough charactures of Mohammed that their heads explode from rage. Problem solved! :up:

I got a better idea:
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../NukeOrbit.jpg

Jimbuna 03-13-12 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1854734)
I got a better idea:

That reminds me of an idea I had a while back....instead of spending the vast sums it takes to keep troops and carry out operations/occupation of these foreign lands, why not spend the money on up to date surveillance equipment to identify where this vermon nest and each time they manage to get through our homeland security measures simply exact a price that far outweighs what they have achieved....surely the message will soon get through to them.

Just a thought...I'll now get my coat.

Stealhead 03-13-12 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1854734)



Are you meaning tho whole thing or just a region? Cause if I where the Space Marines at that point in the future and it was still all messed up here I'd nuke the whole thing we'd have other colonies by then.:D The Xenomorphs at least kill you for a reason.

eddie 03-13-12 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1854745)
That reminds me of an idea I had a while back....instead of spending the vast sums it takes to keep troops and carry out operations/occupation of these foreign lands, why not spend the money on up to date surveillance equipment to identify where this vermon nest and each time they manage to get through our homeland security measures simply exact a price that far outweighs what they have achieved....surely the message will soon get through to them.

Just a thought...I'll now get my coat.

+1:D

Kazuaki Shimazaki II 03-13-12 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1854700)
I think such damage control won't be very effective if at all and has to be considered versus the real damage to morale that will result by throwing a one of our own to the wolves.

I think it'll send a very strong signal to US troops - don't kill civilians on a rampage. If they have morale problems following such a rule, or think a civvie killer is "one of their own", we've got huge problems.

It will be at the very least, one less legitimate reason the enemy can use.


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