Yes, but what change do they seek? What are they there for? The change they wanted last Presidential election wasn't exactly good for business or jobs prospects. I hate to say it, but it's foolish to protest with no idea as to why you're doing it or what the outcome may be.

Being as the Speculators 'bet' on prices going up?
Kill the Wall Street peeps.
Being as the people in Office 'owe' them?
Kill them also.

Not that that would change a damned thing.

Personally, id love to lynch the heard honcho's at the banks who got government help. A long drop with a short stop would do nicely for those SOB's.

Not quite. You can choose not to buy a corporate product or give money to corporate business interest. Much harder and deadlier to disassociate with a government bent on control of it's citizens.

Ain't ever gonna happen.

Alot of people on the streets would just be happy with a perp walk.

Just like you said, won't happen. At least the right and left can agree on something.

Well, yes. I may be pointing that out. But I do think some of these Wall Street suits do need the perp walk as well. Wall Street does have it's fair share of crooks indeed. So does government..and that's much more dangerous. I just think the protests are a waste of time, their focus is largely misdirected and hypocritical, and their goals are questionable.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

Samuel Adams (trust a man who makes good beer :03:)

I remember (I think Jon Stewart) sent a "reporter" around to some of the early tea party rallies and asked what they were protesting for. They gave the same scatterbrained, uncoordinated responses these OWS are giving.

It all starts with an idea, an injustice.

I'm sure when the founding fathers started the revolt from England, they didn't know everything, but they had an idea, an idea that many were willing to fight and die for, and they let destiny see it through.

Do you think they envisioned us sweeping to the Pacific when they decided britain was not good? Not at all, but they had an idea, a hunch it would work, and the testicular fortitude to put the wheels in motion.

This is not right or left as the media spins it. It is all of us. Right and left thinking is what is turning this nation to the largest favela in the western hemisphere. As we fight amongst each other the crooks steal what they could. Then lobby government to get the rest.

Actually his family were Maltsters, not Brewers.

If this mob gets everything they are demanding, we would be just like North Korea. You need to pay attention who's in there backing this crap, so what are big unions doing there ?????

The arrests with the "ows" group is not that they are protesting. Its that they are infringing on the rights of others in some of their actions. Just as their main focus is predicated on removing rights for the rest of the citizenry.

They represent the 99%? Bullhockey.

From: http://occupywallst.org/

That list of groups is NOT 99%. Its entirely far leftist driven, and neither the far left nor the far right are where the majority of people are at.

Want to see what the problem is? Its "THEM"...

http://occupywallst.org/forum/first-...y-wall-street/

The problem is - who exactly is "THEM"? Every capitalist enterprise - every corporation - every business.

So how to "fix" capitalism?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/propos...editadd-so-th/

The dangerous thing is, some ideas make sense, but when you list "demands" - you don't seperate the ones that suck from the ones that don't. Add in the fact you have people (even here on subsim) advocating for violence against others (like executions... ) without a trial. In fact - if you look at their list of grievances - they list "murder" as one of them - without anything to back it up. They want "justice" without the interference of the justice system - which of course they see as corrupt as well.

In other words - only the murderous mob is uncorrupted.

Yea - that really does speak for the 99% eh?

Bull Chips.

Wanting to reign in corporate and lobbyist influence is a leftist position? Well call me a leftist. I mean, even more than I already am. :rotfl2:

I think their list is great. Wall Street has tried to hamstring and gut even the mildest of reforms aimed at them after they took down the entire world economy. They have no place at the bargaining table. And this is coming from someone who works in the financial industry.

Mookie....

Like I said - some things make sense. I am a big proponent of getting corporate money out of politics.

That wasn't my point and you know it. You want to take one position that they are right on? Sure, go ahead. They are right on a few things.

Its SOME of the solutions that are wrong - and some of the grievances that are too.

My point was that this OWS group claims - on their own site - to speak for the 99% of people in the world who are not rich, powerful owners or executives of corporations. Then you look at the list of who is a part of this process - and its clearly one sided politically.

With all the comparisons to the tea party - not one single interview with a "tea partier" was there ever the comment that blacks should be hung, or illegal immigrants shot, or corporations have free reign. Yet the tea party as a whole was "extremist", with extremism being defined as anything that would create a smaller, less intrusive government.

Yet they interview OWS folks, and its easy to find them talking about how they do not want to reform the system - but destroy capitalism entirely. Somehow, that isn't extremist. That isn't on the fringe.

The tea party was made up of a very broad spectrum of political ideologies. There were quite a few liberals who were and are tea partiers. Republicans in the OWS? Good look finding more than 1 or 2....

Oh, and lets not forget - its non-violent right?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1...eet?via=recent

If you actually READ down, a bunch of masked folks in the front trying to break down barricades - then the cops move in. But its the 99% that are being "peaceful".

Like I said - only the murderous mob can be right, huh?

But other things were dug up NOT in interviews. That racist letter from the high ups? Palin drawing "crosshairs" on politicians in her way? The rumblings of "we get our way or armed revolution!"? Shouts of Kill obama?There were some serious undertones (at least in my opinion) that, when taken as a part were harmless, but added together it was a bit scary. (oh and I'm mostly paraphrasing there)

besides, these people in the park ARE being called extremist by opponents, heck they are being called "far left" (which is usually a kind way of saying radical) just a few posts up.