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nikimcbee 02-24-11 02:37 AM

And the best part is, I've stood on Stalin's grave and sat on lenin's lap.:haha:

nikimcbee 02-24-11 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1604754)
It's times like these when I'm seriously wondering why I'm writing my master's thesis on Soviet Union's history (Between 1928 - 1945 and times of emerging Stalinism, no less). Guys like the OP really don't make it easier for us who have genuine academic interest in the subject. A cookie to anyone who can guess how many sentences I can usually say about this before someone asks if I'm a communist.

For anyone interested, I recommend finding Chris Ward's "Stalin's Russia" and reading the last chapter. The whole book is good in my opinion, but the last chapter is specifically interesting. Ward dicusses (among other things) the problem of how a historian should approach a subject that is seen by the majority as fundamentally evil and that's crimes are proven and documented. The same problem applies for many other fields, I reckon, like those interested in the Third Reich. The last chapter is only like 2 or 3 pages long, so if you happen to see the book in a library and have a minute to spare, I recommend checking it out.

And as for the OP I have only one thing to say: :nope:.

A master's thesis in Russian history, eh? Do you speak Russian by chance? What are you planning to do with your "Master's Thesis?"

Oh, and where are you getting it at?:know::hmmm:

Hottentot 02-24-11 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1604780)
A master's thesis in Russian history, eh? Do you speak Russian by chance? What are you planning to do with your "Master's Thesis?"

Most of my primary sources (as opposed to the literature and other second hand sources) are in Russian, so yes. I can't claim to be fluent in it and I need a dictionary quite often, but I speak it. Or "understand" it would probably be a better word. If you want to, I'd be glad to share some of them with you by PM (this is getting way too offtopic otherwise).

What I'm planning to do? To get it done, graduate, get out of the university and get myself a real nice job in something that vaguely resembles my education :D. I haven't given any serious consideration in becoming a career researcher, but who knows.

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Oh, and where are you getting it at?:know::hmmm:
University of Tampere in Finland.

krashkart 02-24-11 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by redsocialist (Post 1604703)
I'm not a troll, this was a legitimate thread, getting feedback from comrades in the USA until you right wing kooks decided to go in your little Yankee cow-boy anti-communist purges to try to attack me with silly BS. So shut it [...blahblah...]
Good day

Wow. Honestly, I've never met anyone here that deserved that kind of treatment. :shifty:

Dowly 02-24-11 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 1604825)
Wow. Honestly, I've never met anyone here that deserved that kind of treatment. :shifty:

Are you surprised? From the start this threads been just about having a dig at the OP, instead of ignoring him or trying to start a discussion. :roll:

Feuer Frei! 02-24-11 05:55 AM

I'm curious, where are you from redsocialist?
There seems to be a lot of anger in some of your posts, both here and in your Gadaffi thread.
We all get passionate about things, heck i know i do, we take a strong stand in what we believe in, we all do that.
But there must also be room for openmindedness, room for maturity and respect for other people's points of view.
I have read some of your posts both here and the Gadaffi thread, and it seems to me at least that your attitude is one of "i don't care what others think, i know what i believe in and that's all that matters".
Unfortunately, the consequences of posting a thread on a forum, letalone in the General section will invariably attract other comments which may or may not differ with your own viewpoints.
That's life, i am not attacking you red, but it just seems you have a very strong dislike towards anything American and also to others offering their own personal viewpoints, especially if they don't marry up with yours.
Be cool mate, accept other people's viewpoints, just because they differ from yours doesn't mean that you have to adopt them too. :up:
One more thing, if you think someone is having a go at you, which i haven't seen in any of the posts thus far, openly attacking you, then be better then that, and don't stoop to personal attacks yourself or volley back with colourful language.
You will get more respect from people if you state your cause in a sensible and mature manner.

Takeda Shingen 02-24-11 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by redsocialist (Post 1604751)
*sigh* I am grown up and I do treat people with respect, don't start bringing up crap and lecturing me.

Really? Why don't you go back and check out your posts again. Your lecture from Steve is well-deserved. Time to grow up.

krashkart 02-24-11 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1604830)
Are you surprised? From the start this threads been just about having a dig at the OP, instead of ignoring him or trying to start a discussion. :roll:

I see your point. :hmmm:

Oberon 02-24-11 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1604830)
Are you surprised? From the start this threads been just about having a dig at the OP, instead of ignoring him or trying to start a discussion. :roll:

Are you surprised at that Dowly?
This is a right leaning US forum, an anti-capitalist far left wing post is going to be attacked and killed on sight. Just look at the Obama wars.

Dowly 02-24-11 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1604879)
Are you surprised at that Dowly?
This is a right leaning US forum, an anti-capitalist far left wing post is going to be attacked and killed on sight. Just look at the Obama wars.

Haha, no, not surprised at all. :DL

August 02-24-11 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1604879)
Are you surprised at that Dowly?
This is a right leaning US forum, an anti-capitalist far left wing post is going to be attacked and killed on sight. Just look at the Obama wars.

You'd have a point if the op was seriously trying to generate discussion. We both know all he's here for is to irritate and inflame.

Oberon 02-24-11 08:29 AM

Don't see anything inflammatory or irritable in the first post in this thread, to be honest.

August 02-24-11 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1604899)
Don't see anything inflammatory or irritable in the first post in this thread, to be honest.


And the dozen others that he's created? He's a troll pure and simple and I say:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...5&d=1238774506

Oberon 02-24-11 08:43 AM

:hmmm:

Most of his threads have been in the SHIII forums, he's made...four threads in GT, only one of which has a title I would consider inflammatory and that's 'Gadaffi turning US and British guns on his people'.
I think I see where you're coming from August, but I think that you're not necessarily looking at this without a tad of bias, in that you are not particularly fond of the far left and their ideology.
I, personally, view a lot of socialist views as wishful thinking, but more power to them. On another forum I frequent there is a fervent Stalinist who views the DPRK as a good country. There have been many heated exchanges I can tell you. This chap here though is not quite as vocal on his views as some, and indeed is less inflammatory in initial posts than some anti-Obama rhetoric I've seen, likewise anti-Palin for that matter.
Now, if you want him to be banned, go right ahead, as I have said this is a right leaning US based forum and Redsocialist really should know better but perhaps he will learn and stick to speaking about Subsims rather than politics because he is in the wrong place for that.

frau kaleun 02-24-11 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by redsocialist (Post 1604703)
I'm not a troll, this was a legitimate thread, getting feedback from comrades in the USA until you right wing kooks decided to go in your little Yankee cow-boy anti-communist purges to try to attack me with silly BS. So shut it, or stick to the topic. If you have nothing to say about Egyptian socialists and their situation, then go on one of the other topics and troll. Go start a thread how Obama is a socialist and is "destroying" Amerika. Then you all can group up and take out your frustrations on evil socialism and communism that threatens liberty, freedom, and democracy.

Good day

I may be a kook, but I'm not a right-wing one. And as a lifelong member of The Left all I can say is: stop making the rest of us look bad.

There is nothing wrong with being passionate about one's beliefs and interests, however what you remind me of is one of those tedious people who everybody avoids because he's incapable of discussing anything unless it's done from the perspective of how it fits into his own pet ideology du jour. Every single topic of conversation becomes an excuse to get on a soapbox and proclaim the party line to the masses and then go off in a sulk because "the masses" aren't interested or, heaven forbid, actually disagree.

Oh, and get a sense of humor. Even about politics. And most especially about yourself. It will serve you far better in the long run - and get you further with more people - than all the soapboxes you can imagine.


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