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Gerald 02-20-11 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout (Post 1602014)
Gaddafi used African mercenaries.

There are reports some military officials to have taken side with the protesters.


I hope all Libya's military to take side with the people. If bullets have to fly for this Gaddafi to go then it must fly.

Yes, then it has Gaddafi use as long as the tool to achieve both political and military objectives, both have been failing at, however, as reflected in the current situation

krashkart 02-20-11 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Article
He also said that "African mercenaries" were being used against the government - a charge protesters have made against the government itself.

So whose mercs are they? :hmmm:

Castout 02-20-11 09:12 PM

The govt of course. The truth is always the victim of a dictatorship.


I'm amazed that an Arab based news channel could be so much more active covering these protests than CNN which is based in supposedly democracy superpower.

CNN always have more ad and less coverage on such important development.

I'm liking Al Jazeera more than CNN now.

I've stopped reading Time magazine since years ago because they somehow became dull and uninteresting. Reading them was becoming bland. They lost their bite somehow. I don't know about now however.

Rockstar 02-20-11 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout (Post 1602014)
Gaddafi used African mercenaries.

There are reports some military officials to have taken side with the protesters.


I hope all Libya's military to take side with the people. If bullets have to fly for this Gaddafi to go then it must fly.

You are missing the point Castout. What is coming is far worse than dictators. I don't understand for years nobody heard anything about Gaddafi now all of a sudden even you say he's a dictator that should be shot. Even Daniel feared for the king who imprisoned him.

In your home land you probably will soon see the same thing happen all in the name of democracy and freedom. This is Islamic Jihad al-faasiqeen freedom fighters fighting in the name of Allah striving against the corrupt Muslims leaders who have associated with the infidels. Replacing them with a hard line Islamic Republic.


Khamenei urged Muslims worldwide to preserve the "people's movement in Egypt," saying it was the duty of both the people and dignitaries of Arab nations and the entire Islamic community.

He reiterated that the Arab revolts were "Islamic" and must be consolidated.

"The enemies try to say that the popular movements in Egypt, Tunisia and other nations are un-Islamic, but certainly these popular movements are Islamic and must be consolidated," he said.

Khamenei also urged that "the conspiracy of enemies to create differences between Sunnis and Shiites" be confronted.

http://www.thenewage.co.za/10953-102...world_Khamenei

Krauter 02-20-11 09:57 PM

Now if only this would spread to NK :nope: ...

At least give an excuse for the South Koreans/U.S and Chinese to go in and clean the place up.

Castout 02-21-11 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1602041)
You are missing the point Castout. What is coming is far worse than dictators. I don't understand for years nobody heard anything about Gaddafi now all of a sudden even you say he's a dictator that should be shot. Even Daniel feared for the king who imprisoned him.

In your home land you probably will soon see the same thing happen all in the name of democracy and freedom. This is Islamic Jihad al-faasiqeen freedom fighters fighting in the name of Allah striving against the corrupt Muslims leaders who have associated with the infidels. Replacing them with a hard line Islamic Republic.


Khamenei urged Muslims worldwide to preserve the "people's movement in Egypt," saying it was the duty of both the people and dignitaries of Arab nations and the entire Islamic community.

He reiterated that the Arab revolts were "Islamic" and must be consolidated.

"The enemies try to say that the popular movements in Egypt, Tunisia and other nations are un-Islamic, but certainly these popular movements are Islamic and must be consolidated," he said.

Khamenei also urged that "the conspiracy of enemies to create differences between Sunnis and Shiites" be confronted.

http://www.thenewage.co.za/10953-102...world_Khamenei

Well I've known persecution all too well and what it made people to. My health is pretty much ruined and I got blamed for my victimization. Death threat spoken by or relayed through no less a member of religious order and I see my own mother turned secular and an apostate by swearing falsely intentionally. Hardly anyone would listen to me and I don't demand much but to be listened. I don't even need any support or help whatsoever. The people who persecute me cheat me out of my effort and knew very well some of the things God had given me but nonetheless for the sake of their ego they persisted with lies and even tried to steal from me and they probably still unknowingly by me. I've come to know such people without credibility and decency to exist and it is beyond my doubt that the Arab world found themselves more or less in the same situation.

In my view a king ought to be respected as a king, and thus a president as a president and such. But when a president tries to become a king then you have a pretender in place. In other words fake democracy is unacceptable but an absolute monarchy would!

As a Christian I myself tried to be a pacifist and passive but years have taught me it wasn't appreciated and only would make matters worse.
In the end I'm no Daniel. If men who put down the law say they are above it they should be judged by that very same law. Social contract should be honored whether in absolute monarchy, constitutional one or a Republic. The only reason men would want to be above rules is so that so they could become lower than the animals.

Gerald 02-21-11 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout (Post 1602034)
The govt of course. The truth is always the victim of a dictatorship.


I'm amazed that an Arab based news channel could be so much more active covering these protests than CNN which is based in supposedly democracy superpower.

CNN always have more ad and less coverage on such important development.

I'm liking Al Jazeera more than CNN now.

I've stopped reading Time magazine since years ago because they somehow became dull and uninteresting. Reading them was becoming bland. They lost their bite somehow. I don't know about now however.

I can agree with on CNN has become colorless, which of course you are using other sources

Tribesman 02-21-11 02:31 AM

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"The enemies try to say that the popular movements in Egypt, Tunisia and other nations are un-Islamic, but certainly these popular movements are Islamic and must be consolidated,"
Rockstar, does that mean khamenie is saying the popular movement against his Islamic theocracy is an islamic religious movement?:smug:

Castout 02-21-11 04:32 AM

HEAR This

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=180351&page=5

Skybird 02-21-11 06:15 AM

A completely different perspective on this chain of unrests.

Ín the past, we already got under poressure from Islam, since the early 60s, but more or less we held our position despite our dependency on their oil. This was not because we were so strong, but because the Muslim nations were so un-united and so much at quarrel with themselves.

Has anyone ever taken the time to imagine the unpleasant scenario how it would effect us if the Muslim nations in the near future would start to act united against us...?

Gerald 02-21-11 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1602246)
A completely different perspective on this chain of unrests.

Ín the past, we already got under poressure from Islam, since the early 60s, but more or less we held our position despite our dependency on their oil. This was not because we were so strong, but because the Muslim nations were so un-united and so much at quarrel with themselves.

Has anyone ever taken the time to imagine the unpleasant scenario how it would effect us if the Muslim nations in the near future would start to act united against us...?

the last sentence of your post is now a reality in some countries, not all ........ yet, and why?, there are explanations, and vice versa

Skybird 02-21-11 07:03 AM

uran and Shariah represent.
 
I am not about the status in individual nations, but I meant the international community of Muslim nations alltogether, as one actor, like "the West". The organisation of Muslim states most of the time is split and divided and busy with fights between actors in their rows. If it, if the Islamic part of the world would learn to act united and coordinated and as one party, then fear even more for freedom in the other parts of the world - including the West.

Islam is nothing arbitrary, it is what is based on Quran and it inevitably includes Shariah. Else it is not "Islam". And this Islam knows no compromise and tolerant, multicultural side-by-side with others. It only knows absolute rule, sole reign - that and nothing else is "Islam".

Gerald 02-21-11 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1602274)
I am not about the status in individual nations, but I meant the international community of Muslim nations alltogether, as one actor, like "the West". The organisation of Muslim states most of the time is split and divided and busy with fights between actors in their rows. If it, if the Islamic part of the world would learn to act united and coordinated and as one party, then fear even more for freedom in the other parts of the world - including the West.

Islam is nothing arbitrary, it is what is based on Quran and it inevitably includes Shariah. Else it is not "Islam". And this Islam knows no compromise and tolerant, multicultural side-by-side with others. It only knows absolute rule, sole reign - that and nothing else is "Islam".

I had a clear picture of your item is no misunderstanding has come up, but for some, controversial topic for many reasons, and there is no one who benefits from getting away from the fact.

Tribesman 02-21-11 07:23 AM

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Has anyone ever taken the time to imagine the unpleasant scenario how it would effect us if the Muslim nations in the near future would start to act united against us...?
In other news predictions are welcomed on how soon pigs will fly.

Gerald 02-21-11 08:37 AM

Thank you Reuters
 
Bloody Clashes in Tripoli as Gov't Offices Burn!

CAIRO – Libyan protesters celebrated in the streets of Benghazi on Monday, claiming control of the country's second largest city after bloody fighting, and anti-government unrest spread to the capital with clashes in Tripoli's main square for the first time. Muammar al-Qaddafi's son vowed that his father and security forces would fight "until the last bullet."

Even as Seif al-Islam Qaddafi spoke on state TV Sunday night, clashes were raging in and around Tripoli's central Green Square, lasting until dawn Monday, witnesses said. They reported snipers opening fire on crowds trying to seize the square, and Qaddafi supporters speeding through in vehicles, shooting and running over protesters. Before dawn, protesters took over the offices of two of the multiple state-run satellite news channels, witnesses said.

A major government building in the capital was on fire Monday morning, a Reuters reporter said. The building is where the General People's Congress, or parliament, meets when it is in session in Tripoli.

Smoke was also rising from two sites in Tripoli where a police station and a security forces bases are located, said Rehab, a lawyer watching from the roof of her home.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02...clash-capital/


Note: Update Record,Published February 21, 2011


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