remember all the Fahrenheit 911 crap? Truther nut cases (talk about "blood libel").

Go back to the Cold War. There have been no shortages of less than civil conduct. We have McCarthy's rhetoric (crappy, but in point of fact VERY popular), then the opposition to McCarthy acting as if they had the high ground, even though they were in fact wrong (the were in fact Soviet agents all through the US government). They were also wrong in minimizing Communism (it was, after all, responsible for more murders than Nazism (even counting all the war dead from WW2 in the Nazi column). The famous "Have you no sense of decency, sir?" speech is always edited down to remove the fact that the same guy was talking about the risk of homosexuals in the military (and they intimated outside the hearings that Roy Cohn was gay).

So the 50s were pretty uncivil.

The 60s were filled with flag burning, actual violence and vandalism of a political nature.

The 40s... also uncivil.

We can do this for every decade, and likely people at the time thought it was the worst ever :)

Yes Brent Spiner is really talented. Just look at all the characters he played on star trek. He also has recorded an album with his fellow Next Gen cast mates.

We still haven't figured this out with television...;)

It is really no different than that fact that every generation thinks that the generation that follows them will be the end of all civilization.

In this case, Obama governance, it is entirely possible.

Don't start.

Following me again? I'm just trying to contribute to the conversation. I thought that was this board ws all about.

Last chance. Stop following me.

Classy.

I like the Trek Original as much as anyone. Not you, mookie?

I'm not soo sure. When you're holding political meetings that are to "get on target" to eliminate people from office, i think violence and politics are a bit too closely associated. We have to be careful how close we associate guns, revolution, and vigilantism with our politics. Politics is a way to solve problems WITHOUT violence, and violence is the opposite of what we strive for.

Violence in speech.....you ask?

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
Obama to liberal supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

I have to disagree. I have used the term 'get back on target' or 'getting back on target' countless times in my classroom on the elementary, high school and collegiate levels. It was, and is, a clear metaphor for getting back to focusing on the subject at hand. This is also exactly how it was used at political rallies.

Violence in speech.....you ask?

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
Obama to liberal supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”