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krashkart 06-23-10 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1426193)
The uniforms were one big part of HWMNBN's problems, but I have never seen such a lowering of morale caused by one General in my entire military career.

It is too late for me, but spare yourself from learning more about HWMNBN.

Read about something more pleasant, say the genocide of the American Indian or something. Anything but HWMNBN

Too late, I'm already on the hunt. :DL


EDIT:

The Composite Wing. Of all things I would forget... :damn:

Tchocky 06-23-10 12:40 PM

And he's gone. Looks like it will be Petraeus again.

OneToughHerring 06-23-10 12:45 PM

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...yourefired.jpg

With this song in the background.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sVUvpdT-NY

thorn69 06-23-10 01:17 PM

Well, we all saw that one coming. Typical tyrant practicing typical tyrannical rule. Petraeus should turn down the job and resign as well.

AVGWarhawk 06-23-10 01:41 PM

The writing was on the walls.

tater 06-23-10 01:43 PM

Well played by Obama, actually.

Takeda Shingen 06-23-10 02:02 PM

Yes. I'm not a real Obama guy, but this was like Truman and MacArthur. Right or wrong, he can't publically ridicule the civilian leadership.

AVGWarhawk 06-23-10 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1426470)
Well played by Obama, actually.

I would have to agree. If BO let this slide it would really be open season.

SteamWake 06-23-10 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1426484)
Yes. I'm not a real Obama guy, but this was like Truman and MacArthur. Right or wrong, he can't publically ridicule the civilian leadership.

:haha: :har:

McArthur was a loose cannon openly trying to chang policy in the theater.

McChrystal (or rather his aides) made a few remarks....

But sure Obama is a stern taskmaster... right...

In the meantime .. Patraeus ????? you got to be kidding me.. Isnt he the guy they had lambasted and literally called a liar? Frankly I'm supprised he took the job.

My god you cant make this stuff up !!! Patraeus !!!! oh gawd my sides hurt from laughing.

Takeda Shingen 06-23-10 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1426516)
:haha: :har:

McArthur was a loose cannon openly trying to chang policy in the theater.

McChrystal (or rather his aides) made a few remarks....

But sure Obama is a stern taskmaster... right...

In the meantime .. Patraeus ????? you got to be kidding me.. Isnt he the guy they had lambasted and literally called a liar? Frankly I'm supprised he took the job.

My god you cant make this stuff up !!! Patraeus !!!! oh gawd my sides hurt from laughing.

Laugh all you like, but it was entirely inappropriate to make those remarks. Obama was right in this case. I know you really don't like Obama at all, but you are two-stepping around the central issue so that you can take shots at the guy.

SteamWake 06-23-10 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1426525)
Laugh all you like, but it was entirely inappropriate to make those remarks. Obama was right in this case. I know you really don't like Obama at all, but you are two-stepping around the central issue so that you can take shots at the guy.

No no not at all I felt McChrystal should have resigned... which is what he did.

If I recall correctly McCarther did not and was 'fired'.

Slight difference.

Furthermore it has come to light that there evidenlty nothing all that really subordinate was said by McChrystal.

I dont think we have heard the last of this.

Platapus 06-23-10 04:14 PM

I read the Rolling Stone article, and frankly I did not see anything that I could see would violate Article 88.

The reporter is a douche and his career is over for I doubt anyone would ever trust him again. I was going to write about journalistic integrity but I could not stop giggling when I tried to use the world journalism and integrity in the same sentence.

I first served under Reagan and since Regan I heard high ranking military guys bitchin about the President. I am sure that the same happened to presidents before my military service. To me there is a huge difference between what happens behind the doors and a public statement. That's where the reporter failed to understand.

I think McChrystal needed to have his butt chewed and told to put his ego on hold and not to talk to the press (the press is no one's friend). I also think he should have been sent back to AF to fix his COIN problem.

This makes me more suspicious that McChrystal wanted to retire before he can be blamed for the COIN failures in AF. The second part of the Rolling Stone article was pretty interesting.

When stuff like this happens I am reminded of one of my favourite Truman quotes when he describes the firing of MacArthur.

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I fired him because he wouldn't respect the authority of the president. That's the answer to that. I didn't fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was, but that's not against the law for generals. If it was, half to three-quarters of them would be in jail.


:D

Jimbuna 06-23-10 04:19 PM

I'm pleased he jumped before he was pushed....wouldn't give him the public satisfaction I suspect :hmmm:

Aramike 06-23-10 04:27 PM

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My god you cant make this stuff up !!! Patraeus !!!! oh gawd my sides hurt from laughing.
It's rich, isn't it? Obama now appoints a man who's plan he for the surge in Iraq he condemned to failure. A "Bush" guy. The same general that MoveOn.org stated should be tried for treason.

Platapus 06-23-10 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike (Post 1426599)
It's rich, isn't it? Obama now appoints a man who's plan he for the surge in Iraq he condemned to failure. A "Bush" guy. The same general that MoveOn.org stated should be tried for treason.

Let's hope he can figure a way out of this mess.

Good luck to him :up:


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