Nice try, but epic fail.
You are trying to mix different parts of the law which don't mix, you have many seperate issues there.
You are jumping from territorial right through contiguous and out to EEZ and trying to drag things from territorial and contiguous with you even though they are firmly tied to their own zone.

Nah, whatever. Can't be arsed.

But, think about it. Israel is being funded with US tax payer money. Israel gets more money from the US then any developing nation, plus private donations. Are they that badly off? Wouldn't you like to have that tax money in your own pocket?

Well done, Israel :up:

Stupid activists, got what they deserved.

I hate thos leftish bastards that think they are above the rules.
funny that they are too the violent ones in most of their stupid actions.

Left and Right are pretty much the same, it's just that theire reasons differ for their stupidity.

they ignored the request to dock elswere and the good be checked and send further from there, they simply didn't cooperate and just resisted with violence sailing on the waves of Human Rights :roll:

they acted stupid and got their ass handed to them and I don't feel any bit sorry for that scum.

HunterICX

Yes, you just oversee that the PR victory that this provocation was designed for, has been scored by those leftists and hamasophile philantropists. Refusing to land in Ashdod and let the goods being controlled and then transported on land was part of that intention, because if they would have done that, there could not have been any showdown at sea that they wanted, and that now delivers Israel - although it seems to me that in principle Israel is right here - a major diplomatic disaster. You laugh about these people getting their ass handed to them. But in fact, they won this round by right getting their asses handed to them. more and more information gets leaked that indicates that the Israelis are right when they claim that aboard the ship the use of violence and weapons was prepared long in advance. The outcome of this operation is exactly what the Palestinians wanted!

It's a shooting and a media war going on. In the latter, the Palestinians excel (although the Mossad also is not shy in playing dirty). That also is a part of a wider concept of asymmetric warfare.

Just want to get things clarified: Does this mean that it's not OK to hate someone because he/she was born in a black family, while it's perfectly OK to hate someone because he/she is born in a muslim family? I fail to see why one type of bigot should be better than the other.

No. (But I don't recall makings comments like this? :06: Unless you were just asking) One kind bigot is just as bad as the next.

I haven't seen you making comments like that either, so please don't take offense. I had Skybird's posts in mind. I've seen films from the south in the 1960s, where clan people make the most despicable speaches about blacks, but none of them were able to express their hatred with such intensity, such fervour as the white hot hate that's expressed in Skybird's posts about muslims.

Hating people for their skin colour, their hair or the form of their eyes, is racism.

Being worried and/or finding disgusting the way people behave, the content of the ideologies they believe and that they put to life in the world you share with them, is no racism.

People really should stop to mistak the one with the other.

I don't think boardings in the EEZ are legal. I think it has to be territorial waters.

Maybe the rules are a little bit different in a blockade zone...but, I'm guessing for such a blockade to officially exist in international waters there would have to be a UNSCR resolution under Chapter VII, and without such a resolution a state would be best to keep the blockade in territorial waters.

EDIT: at least under UNCLOS, boardings in the EEZ can be legal if done "in the exercise of its sovereign rights to explore, exploit, conserve and manage the living resources in the exclusive economic zone," but that obviously is not applicable here.

He's right you know.


;)

actually the law of the sea has never been that clear:

http://www.slate.com/id/1007689

That would make things complicated in the case of the antisemites; Hating jews because of their race - bad thing. Hating them because of their religion - sure, why not? Sounds like hogwash to me.

There's a difference between hating people who believe something and hating what they believe. I think for Skybird it's the latter, but I can't speak for him.

I'm sitting here and I'm pondering the range of options open to Israel in dealing with the convoy. The category of using force against it is spread into different sections and methods of approach.
I personally, at first glance, would have allowed the ships to approach Israeli waters, and then halted them with a warship and fired a few shots across their bow...but then what? If the ships call the bluff and keep on steaming, what do you do? Any action other than backing down will result in casualties, particularly if, and it seems so, there were weapons on board the convoy (and that's got to be a big no-no against the convoys moral high ground) and if you back down then what precedent does that set? That any Tom, Dick or Mohammad with a boat can sail into Gaza and deliver whatever they want to people who will potentially attack you?
Whatever their choice in this matter, Israel would have lost, it was a no win situation.
Come to think of it...in this political climate, Israel is in an unsustainable position, eventually it will completely alienate itself and may find itself under heavy sanctions and perhaps a blockade of its own. Then what does it do?
Get invaded and overrun by Syria probably, and that's an epic victory for the anti-western factions of the Middle East who view Israel as being an extension of the West into the Middle East.

Not good for Israel, either way.

The ship refused an order to turn back and the passenger and crew attacked the boarding party. Israel has nothing to apologize for, the boarding party of any other navy would have reacted the same way.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...ch-us-1.293089

of course, the international news media will once again portray Israel as the only villain.