Why would anyone be interested in that? Maybe if one wants a theoretical discussion on the merits of each game you could go there, but I'm much more interested in how things are in practice. If I were buying a submarine game right now and wanted to know which game comes out on top I couldn't care less what was the status of either game was in 2005. Similarily the knowledge that it'll possibly be fixed in the distant future would do very little to help with the problems experienced at present time.

Also the post you quoted in my name wasn't mine.

I think I see what you are getting at Fincuan. You think that by saying one cannot compare SHIII to SH5(or stating what might happen in the future i.e. mods) is downplaying the current problems with SH5, and as a result, possibly misleading people into thinking that SH5 is better than it is. I can understand that.

Corrected the quote thingy. Thanks.

And I see what you're getting at, but that's not how I interpreted the question that the OP asked. As well.

That's a bit extreme. SH4 looks as much better than SH3 as SH5 does compared to SH4. I still play both 3 and 4, and undoubtedly will after I can finally play 5. If you really wanted some Pacific action that wouldn't stop you. Have you tried SH1? After that SH4 will look like a dream come true. Of course looks aren't everything, and anyone who thinks they are is missing out on much better gameplay.

I still ocassionally pull out AOD, and you can't get much more primitive than that.

As I said in another thread the other day......when SH5 has had as much work and time spent on it as has SH3, I expect it to be far superior.

There are already some extremely talented people working on SH5.

One problem they face is the uncertainty of how many more if any patches will be released in the future.

Until then it is too risky to pour in vast quantities of time and resources on a mod of any magnitude because it is impossible to know what peoples best efforts may unintentionally break in the game.

I would go with what Jim said. :up:

Yeah, people forget what Sh3 was like in May 2005, it too was probably around patch 1.02 -and as for mods? virtually stuff all avaliable at that time. Not to mention everyone screaming about starforce.
For the same period SH5 has 10 times what Sh3 had.
Sh5 is barely two months old and new unit imports & campaign scripting are already on the cards. it took amost year before that happened to SH3.
At this time it IS ridiculous to compare the two on anything other than their 'out of the box' condition.

Thats my main defence of the DRM. do you guys REMEMBER starforce? jeeesus that **** was horrible.

This one is pretty horible too, but at least it never broke my Win install or virusscanner. :-?

On the other hand, Starforce never bothered me at all (which is a bit like all the SH5ers saying OSP doesn't affect their playing). At least I could play the earlier games, and still can, which is more than I can do with SH5.:cry:

+2:D

Don't have sh5 yet, so no opinion

Starforce never bothered me either :nope:

Starforce gave me all sorts of technical issues, and stopped playing SH3 till i got the direct download a few years later, then found you guys, and gwx, and didn't stop playing for a long while. :rock: DRM doesn't bother me as I'm used to "Permanant internet" from playing eq1, eq2, SWG, and Lotro over the years. yall want to talk buggy unfinished games? you should have been on star wars galaxies around the time of the combat upgrade they did in.. 2005 i think it were. that was beyond a fiasco, an out right clusterf**k is what it was.

But I digress. Yes SH5 is still quirky at times, but the mods have fixed nearly all the issues i had. I do hope for more patches to fix the issues i haven't seen yet, and more mods to add even more immersion, even a GWX flavored supermod is something to hope for. SH5 gets so much better everyday, and its the wonderfully creative folks here at subsim, and others out there that love this series so much that they volunteer to help build this thing beyond our wildest dreams. Hats off to you guys.

Video of Aces latest mod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5byWnRFOJDM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=168825

@ Jim, have uploaded and sent PM.

Now that is beyond incredible. :up:

I could watch the coffee in the cup all day, untill a target pops up. :yep: