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Méo 03-03-10 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyj (Post 1291094)
Ok, fair point, I was over the top there. I am actually very disappointed that this game wasn't what I hoped. I'll be more careful with my wording in future.

No problem mate, anyone does mistakes. :up:

tonyj 03-03-10 05:53 PM

I'm running xp, haven't tried without shadows so will give that a go tomoro. Will get fps too. Thx for the suggestions.

Drifter 03-03-10 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Laffertytig (Post 1290631)
you just cant beat a good, constructive post such as the one above:hmmm:

Oh please. What kind of response is that?

I'm afraid I have to agree with tonyj. SH5 is absolutely horrible in my opinion. Poor performance, one of the worst UI I have ever seen, very arcadish, not even a half-finished game. Totally, totally disappointed. I feel ripped-off.

sav112 03-03-10 06:14 PM

As I said in a few posts I’ll buy this a year down the line, as this is just the usual stuff you get these days . The post with the destroyer wandering off when your surfaced was frightening to read.


For those who bought the game I hope the fix it soon and thanks for playing the game and bringing these many bugs to the attention of the forum.

Laffertytig 03-03-10 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Drifter (Post 1291129)
Oh please. What kind of response is that?

I'm afraid I have to agree with tonyj. SH5 is absolutely horrible in my opinion. Poor performance, one of the worst UI I have ever seen, very arcadish, not even a half-finished game. Totally, totally disappointed. I feel ripped-off.

oh i dunno, its the kinda response from a guy who remembers very well seing these exact kinda posts from people after SH2, SH3 and 4 were released:up:

and here we are at SH5. but then you probably wouldnt know these things judging by your newness round here.

anyways,

didnt i read some of your posts regarding how excited you were with the modding possibilities of SH5? maybe this game genre aint for you after all.

jwilliams 03-03-10 06:42 PM

I've been buying computer games for over 25 years now. Got my first computer at age 10 (commodore vic 20).

I have never bought a game as unfinished as ubisofts silent hunter series (maybe I've just been lucky). but i have probitly bought over 300 games in my life time and the only unfinished ones i've seen are silent hunter games. Sure i've bought games with bugs, but nothing major. I cannot beleive that any company would release a game in such an unfinished state. If the game is not finished, then you delay it, sure you'll upset a few, but release unfinished you upset many.

Everyone keeps saying but its got potenial, patches and modders will finish it. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO !!!

Thats like buying a book, but only the odd numbers have the print on them and telling you that maybe you might find the even pages online and download them youself, then add them to your book.

I'm sure that if any one bought a book like that you soon be returning it!!!

SH3 - I bought - A few problems, not too bad after patches... and is now really good after modders (thanks guys).

SH4 i never bought. Unfinished state put me off.

SH5 i want to buy... but OMG... dont know if i will now.

Ubisoft Dev's and Publisher really need some Quality Control systems put in place.

grilldor 03-03-10 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyj (Post 1290619)
i'm sorry chaps, i'm upset.

this game is really, really, and i mean really, bad. play sh3 and its a pleasure, makes sense and just works.

sh5 is shockingly bad. I honestly think they released this halfway through the dev cycle.

i thought i was disappointed with sh4 but this reaches a new low.

i'm sorry to complain people but i had to get this off my chest.

Im sorry but this guy has it right... I have the game and its totally unplayable and half-assed...

I really, really want my money back...

CCIP 03-03-10 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams (Post 1291212)

SH4 i never bought. Unfinished state put me off.

SH5 i want to buy... but OMG... dont know if i will now.

Well, from the sounds of it...

If you want an updated uboat sim, do yourself a favour and get SHIV, download OM (or TMO or RFB if you want the US side), and enjoy that. It will give you loads of new features for months of good play that you're almost certainly missing out on. And months that you can afford to wait for SHV to get patched up...

Seriously, I'm not negative about SHV, but when you have a whole high-quality sim on this subject to still explore, it's your ticket to avoid temptation to SHV and enjoy some very good gameplay while SHV is in the dock.

capthelm 03-03-10 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyj (Post 1290619)
i'm sorry chaps, i'm upset.

this game is really, really, and i mean really, bad. play sh3 and its a pleasure, makes sense and just works.

sh5 is shockingly bad. I honestly think they released this halfway through the dev cycle.

i thought i was disappointed with sh4 but this reaches a new low.

i'm sorry to complain people but i had to get this off my chest.


bye then

capthelm 03-03-10 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grilldor (Post 1291245)
Im sorry but this guy has it right... I have the game and its totally unplayable and half-assed...

I really, really want my money back...


lmao

janh 03-03-10 07:06 PM

I don't quite understand why people buy it so early on and complain now. With Ubi's history, couldn't you have foreseen how it would be?

SHIII was published with some significant game-play issues/bugs, but was reasonably playable out of the box without patching. At that time many people complained about an impression of an "unfinished product release" (and I am neither contradicting nor supporting this judgment here). It received several patches over time, and received much complaints that could have been avoided if it was published a few months later.

Now, my expectation was that Ubi would learn and that SHIV would have been published without such a public debacle repeating itself. But we all know what did happen. And how much Ubi cared in the end about customer opinion and complaints -- relative to the importance it puts on early generation of sales volume. Again, after a while and number of patches, it became quite playable as judged from the posts and modding activity here at subsim. I never bought it though -- the whole desaster at the beginning cost a lot of my interest in it, and eventually the posts at the forum here convinced me that it didn't add any really novel feature, so I stuck with SHIII-GWX. That might have been different if the release had been better previewed and reviewed, and not overshadowed by the "unfinished state impression".

Now, why don't people learn from that "history"? Who would have seriously bet on a much more complete, almost bug-free SHV release? Why would most of you not simply wait for a couple of month/year until the patching by Ubi is complete, and buy it when it is a finished product? What is the gain of getting it so early, what difference do a couple of month make for you?

jwilliams 03-03-10 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1291246)
Well, from the sounds of it...

If you want an updated uboat sim, do yourself a favour and get SHIV, download OM (or TMO or RFB if you want the US side), and enjoy that. It will give you loads of new features for months of good play that you're almost certainly missing out on. And months that you can afford to wait for SHV to get patched up...

Seriously, I'm not negative about SHV, but when you have a whole high-quality sim on this subject to still explore, it's your ticket to avoid temptation to SHV and enjoy some very good gameplay while SHV is in the dock.

No thanks, I'll stick with SH3 with mods. And If SH5 does show the potensial that everyone is saying it may have, then Sh5 will be mine.

Im itching to buy it now, just unsure atm.

So your surposed to say "buy it now all will be fine" lol :O:

But as no one knows for sure. ima wait for Neals review, keep reading this forum and then re-assess.

CCIP 03-03-10 07:19 PM

Oh by all means, DON'T buy it now if you have legitimate concerns. I do this with almost any game - wait for reviews, if reviews cause questions, wait for patches. There are only 2 or 3 game series that I would buy instantly and without hesitation like this, SH certainly being one of them, but that's just my personal genre preference.

Steeltrap 03-03-10 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tonschk (Post 1290661)
Please show you with your Silent hunter 5 DVD disk , or you with your PC and the game running otherwise your opinions are not Valid and very suspicious
/

And who appointed you arbiter of whose views are 'valid' (whatever the hell that means)? Why don't you just call the poster a liar and be done with it, as that is what you've more or less accused them of.

I don't see the people writing cheery, "I love SH5" being accused of not having it.

So they think the game sucks. Tough **** to you. Get over it.

Drifter 03-03-10 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janh (Post 1291281)
I don't quite understand why people buy it so early on and complain now. With Ubi's history, couldn't you have foreseen how it would be?

SHIII was published with some significant game-play issues/bugs, but was reasonably playable out of the box without patching. At that time many people complained about an impression of an "unfinished product release" (and I am neither contradicting nor supporting this judgment here). It received several patches over time, and received much complaints that could have been avoided if it was published a few months later.

Now, my expectation was that Ubi would learn and that SHIV would have been published without such a public debacle repeating itself. But we all know what did happen. And how much Ubi cared in the end about customer opinion and complaints -- relative to the importance it puts on early generation of sales volume. Again, after a while and number of patches, it became quite playable as judged from the posts and modding activity here at subsim. I never bought it though -- the whole desaster at the beginning cost a lot of my interest in it, and eventually the posts at the forum here convinced me that it didn't add any really novel feature, so I stuck with SHIII-GWX. That might have been different if the release had been better previewed and reviewed, and not overshadowed by the "unfinished state impression".

Now, why don't people learn from that "history"? Who would have seriously bet on a much more complete, almost bug-free SHV release? Why would most of you not simply wait for a couple of month/year until the patching by Ubi is complete, and buy it when it is a finished product? What is the gain of getting it so early, what difference do a couple of month make for you?

You were smart to wait and not buy it. That is all I have to say.


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