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oscar19681 03-01-10 07:00 PM

Seems its allready taking care off.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162757

CaptainNemo12 03-01-10 07:06 PM

Yes, the rear of the towers were indeed different between the B and C models, seems more logical that they would replace the windbreaker instead of the whole tower during the refit.

Heretic 03-01-10 07:09 PM

I imagine they repaired with whatever the yard had on hand. Stands to reason after they switched over to C's, B's would end up getting repaired with some of the C parts.

Florent 03-02-10 02:35 AM

It seems that as read above there were some changes during the war and the VIIb was build in 2 or 3 different places.
Take U47 an early VIIb, during the Scapa flow expedition it had not the typical b cut tower but more like a c with middle air wind deflector, the superior part of tower is like a type a. Look at the picture showing the 66587 tonneaux sunk + video on you tube.
If you look at a photo taken on february 23 1941 (last mission), U47 has now the typical VIIb tower with the huge air exhaust on the sides.
I searched for the early screen where i thought there were a typical b but it wasn't.
Thus perhaps the campaign will have the different towers. Photos taken yesterday were taken from missions not the campaign. We will see rapidly now.

quad5 03-02-10 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordmann (Post 1286711)
I doubt that very much. If some of the posters on here can't recognise the difference between a VIIB and VIIC, then you can bet your backside Ubi certainly will not. In any case, now that the model is done, they won't go back and change it to satisfy those in the know (probably a minority).

Very badly! The situation with models in game calls into question into the competence of designers UBI.:down::damn:

quad5 03-02-10 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar19681 (Post 1286603)
I mean is it so hard to see the difference? They did it right in sh-3 and in sh-5 they get it wrong?

It is a shame for UBI!:down::down::down:

urfisch 03-02-10 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quad5 (Post 1287255)
It is a shame for UBI!:down::down::down:

as to the models names, ubi didnt model the 3d objects in romania. they where modeled in a spanish country. and this is a common way...to "import" the models from countries, with cheaper 3d modelers. but what about quality management? seems, they only took the delivered models and put them in the game, without checking them...also the flags mast in front of the boat is in again.

this is a fail. right.

:nope:

Florent 03-02-10 04:56 AM

When you look at the banner on Marinesims.de the VIIb is different more like early b à la Prien. The top of Conning tower is like type a.

oscar19681 03-02-10 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florent (Post 1287328)
When you look at the banner on Marinesims.de the VIIb is different more like early b à la Prien. The top of Conning tower is like type a.

Thats because its a VIIA

Florent 03-02-10 01:32 PM

No early VIIb, the type a doesn't have a wind deflector in the middle of the conning tower and a type a has a bulge astern for the non reloadable torpedo tube. Here there is no bulge caracteristic of a type and has the wind deflector in middle of conning tower, thus early b like Prien U47 in October 1940.
Yesterday VII b was either a very late b or CCI did a mistake in the type posted.

oscar19681 03-07-10 09:34 AM

Did someone allready fix this into sh-5?

oscar19681 05-14-10 04:32 PM

I thought dan said they were gonna fix the VIIB conning tower in patch 2?

oscar19681 05-14-10 05:19 PM

Uhm am i the only one interested in historical accurate models?


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