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goldorak 11-19-09 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon (Post 1205361)
Well, she also doesn't need a teleprompter to put together a grouping of coherent sentences like the menace currently in the WH. And talk about making a fool out of yourself during the campaign, I wonder if Obama still thinks the USA is comprised of 57 states.

Mookie, it's apparent that people like you are deathly afraid of this woman. For nno other reason than she has an ability to energize people of conservative values to donate money and go out and vote. The "She's stupid" thing doesn't work. Liberals do this with every Republican politician....like GW Bush for example and he got re-elected.

I also think you're scared because as she is out there energizing conservatives, the Democrat Party has kicked guys like you to the curb. And you know that ain't going to play well with your base next cycle. ;)

Sarah Palin is no idiot.
She is a genuine political animal with a killer instinct.
The problem is twofold : she is too much of a polarizer (and burning bridges left and right is not a good thing to do when you aspire to the presidential seat).
And second : some of her actions don't make sense (in whatever way you want to look at it). How can you RESIGN from governor of Alaska and still think you've got a political capital to spend ?
Do republicans want to vote someone like Palin that could quit being president because of a tantrum ?
She could have a possibility to become a mainstay of american politics, and maybe even win a sentor seat in congress.
But president ? It will never happen unless she opens up to independants and maybe a sector of the democrats. But relying only on the republican base won't get her in the white house.
Just my .02 €

August 11-19-09 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by goldorak (Post 1205755)
And second : some of her actions don't make sense (in whatever way you want to look at it). How can you RESIGN from governor of Alaska and still think you've got a political capital to spend ?
Do republicans want to vote someone like Palin that could quit being president because of a tantrum ?

This would be my biggest reason not to vote for her.

SteamWake 11-19-09 08:56 AM

Now that we have the petty bickering over bowing and name calling out of the way...

Perhaps this is at the root of the fear.... People seem to like her.

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Originally Posted by apnews
Thousands gathered outside a Barnes & Noble and chanted "Palin! Palin! Palin!" for the kickoff of the former Republican vice presidential candidate's "Going Rogue" book tour, which has taken on the feel of a political pep rally.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091119/D9C28MC00.html

goldorak 11-19-09 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1205776)
Now that we have the petty bickering over bowing and name calling out of the way...

Perhaps this is at the root of the fear.... People seem to like her.



http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091119/D9C28MC00.html

No, the republican base loves her.
Others not so much. She would be much more dangerous if she had the consensus not only of the party base, but also the independants or at least a large part of the independant voters and some democrats. And that is not happening because of her one-sided views. Stuborness 'till the end.
So there is no need to be afraid of her, as it stands right now she has 0 possibility of being in the race for the white house (unless she tries again as vice presidential candidate).
Oh and she has to explain clearly WHY she resigned from the governer's office.
Maybe it was justified, but untill she explains clearly why she did it, it will appear as if she wasn't tough enough for the job.

AVGWarhawk 11-19-09 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1205590)
Oh good grief, is this what you people are left to criticize? Is this seriously the most important issue that you on he right are worried about? No wonder no one takes you seriously anymore.

Did you get your panties in a bunch like this when Nixon bowed to Mao? Of course not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI0GMR2w59Y (0:18 seconds in)

I'd love to see how the Republican apologists spin this one.

No one takes me seriously anymore? In the large scheme of things who gives a rats a$$? I will not go down that road with what anyone thinks of anyone on the forums or otherwise. When Nixon bowed to Mao I was still riding my Big Wheel and watching cartoons. :salute: It has been real fun at the SS forums. Enjoy!

SteamWake 11-19-09 09:12 AM

Dirty little secret not covered during the campaigns by the 'mainstream media' is that Palins appearance attendance was greater than that of Obama's.

I only wonder what might have happened if Palin had not been squelched by her own party.

mookiemookie 11-19-09 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1205791)
No one takes me seriously anymore? In the large scheme of things who gives a rats a$$? I will not go down that road with what anyone thinks of anyone on the forums or otherwise. When Nixon bowed to Mao I was still riding my Big Wheel and watching cartoons. :salute: It has been real fun at the SS forums. Enjoy!

For clarification's sake, the "you" I was referring to was the Republican Party, not you personally. Sorry for the confusion as I do try and keep things non-personal.

goldorak 11-19-09 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1205792)
Dirty little secret not covered during the campaigns by the 'mainstream media' is that Palins appearance attendance was greater than that of Obama's.

I only wonder what might have happened if Palin had not been squelched by her own party.


I've always thought that the republican campaign officials purposely mismanaged Sarah Palin. Maybe they honestly didn't know what to do with her. If she had been prepared better and not at the last minute, who knows what could have happened. As vice presidential candiate you have the luxury of having "extremist" views as long as the presidential candidate has a more "moderate" bi-partisan approach. In all of this, her rhetoric (or rather the absense of it) didn't really help her or the main candidate.
The press just went along for the ride as always.

mookiemookie 11-19-09 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by goldorak (Post 1205785)
So there is no need to be afraid of her, as it stands right now she has 0 possibility of being in the race for the white house (unless she tries again as vice presidential candidate).

Exactly. Who is scared of someone who probably won't win their own party's primary, much less the presidency?

SteamWake 11-19-09 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1205799)
Exactly. Who is scared of someone who probably won't win their own party's primary, much less the presidency?

Again I do not believe a presidential run is her impetious.

That alone should put the liberal agenda proponents on notice.

AngusJS 11-19-09 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by goldorak (Post 1205755)
Sarah Palin is no idiot.

I just don't know how an intelligent person could say the things she's said. And the evidence that she's a creationist bodes even worse for her IQ, regardless of how many right wingers will lap it up.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6620/creationistsg.jpg

August 11-19-09 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by goldorak (Post 1205785)
No, the republican base loves her.

Not really. There are some within the GoP who like her but many more don't. Her resignation from the Governorship was not taken very well.

Sea Demon 11-19-09 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1205799)
Exactly. Who is scared of someone who probably won't win their own party's primary, much less the presidency?

Oh, I can guarantee she won't win any primary. I like her personally, yet would find it hard to vote for her for a number of reasons. Her value, and what has people like you crapping their pants, is that she articulates a viewpoint completely 180 degrees out of phase with the attempted current failed leftist ideology permeating the scene in Washington DC. And she's effective and is popular in doing it. She also has a knack for fundraising. This is why liberals are frantic in their ...."She's a nitwit" type of nonsense. It absolutely has no impact BTW, but I enjoy watching liberals huff and puff over this woman who apparently to them is an idiot. If she's such a moron...why the feeble attempts to destroy her? Why the desperate name-calling? It's comical. :rotfl2:

ETR3(SS) 11-19-09 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1205612)
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/palin-evolution/

She knows that every expert in this field would say she's dead wrong, and she doesn't care. Why bother to question your beliefs? Why bother to expand your knowledge?

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1205810)
I just don't know how an intelligent person could say the things she's said. And the evidence that she's a creationist bodes even worse for her IQ, regardless of how many right wingers will lap it up.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6620/creationistsg.jpg

Let me remind you that there is just as much proof that evolution is the answer as there is that creation is the answer. They are both theories if you really look at it. And the fact that you belittle creationists makes you no different than the creationists that belittle evolutionists. Sarah Palin has a strong belief in God, good for her! :up:

And for the record I am indifferent of Plain. Also I do not believe in God or the Theory of Evolution. Man is not wise enough to know his origin, and won't be for some time.

antikristuseke 11-19-09 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1205848)
Let me remind you that there is just as much proof that evolution is the answer as there is that creation is the answer. They are both theories if you really look at it. And the fact that you belittle creationists makes you no different than the creationists that belittle evolutionists. Sarah Palin has a strong belief in God, good for her! :up:

And for the record I am indifferent of Plain. Also I do not believe in God or the Theory of Evolution. Man is not wise enough to know his origin, and won't be for some time.

Are you serious or are you just so badly misinformed that you actualy believe that the theory of evolution and creationism have equal amounts of supporting evidence?
Hell, even calling creationism a theory is completely wrong, since it isn't one, it is a hypothesis at best. A theory, in the scientific sense of the word, is an analytic structure designed to explain a set of empirical observations. Also theories have to be falsifiable and have to make testable predictions, the toe does that while creationism, not being a theory does not.
Now a request for you, in your own words, describe what the theory of evolution is, please.


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