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Max2147 08-27-09 10:23 AM

I come from a family of doctors, so I know quite a few of them. I've never heard any of them say a bad word about Ted Kennedy, even though a lot of them are from the conservative side of the spectrum. When his obituaries talk about his support for health care, they're not making it up.

I've personally benefited from his strong support of teaching hospitals. Without teaching hospitals you don't have the next generation of doctors, but they've been a dying breed as of late because they're not as profitable as other things hospitals can do. Ted Kennedy was easily the strongest supporter of teaching hospitals in national office, and our nation's academic physicians will miss his tireless support of their profession.

SteamWake 08-27-09 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1159765)
The Kennedy's and the fairytale Court of Camelot, even included a version of the Lady in the Lake for constistancy.

Oh thats just so wrong :har:

CastleBravo 08-27-09 10:48 AM

Named after his father’s chauffer and, as one biographer uncharitably called him, “whoremaster,” Edward Moore Kennedy never had a chance to be anyone but Edward Moore Kennedy. Joe Kennedy’s ambition to be president, jeopardized by his burning affair with starlet Gloria Swanson, moved the family patriarch to offer more money, trips, and servants to his alienated wife in return for a ninth child that would keep the scandal sheets off his back. As biographer Joe McGinniss explained, Ted Kennedy’s “very existence was the result of an act of political calculation on his father’s part.”

“He was my baby,” mother Rose remembered, “and I tried to keep him my baby.” When he was a man, this showed. He cheated his way out of Harvard. He led police on drunken high-speed chases while at law school in Charlottesville, Va. He bedded the most available women. When he finally settled down with Joan Bennett, his virgin bride surmised that he did so mainly because she refused to give him what so many of his girlfriends had “The only reason he wanted to marry me,” Joan reflected, “was because he couldn’t get me any other way.”

Washington Post columnist Mary McGrory said the trick in discussing the neophyte’s senate run was “to keep an absolutely straight face.” Prof. Mark De Wolfe Howe of Harvard Law School, a sometime advisor to John F. Kennedy, found the youngest Kennedy’s candidacy “preposterous and insulting.” But the pedigree of the 30-year-old kid brother of the President bested that of Edward McCormack, the nephew of the Speaker of the House, in the Democratic primary.

Despite his intellectual and character deficiencies, Ted was the family’s natural politician. His glad-handing and gregarious nature showed him as a Fitzgerald and not a Kennedy.

In the wee hours of July 18, 1969, Ted Kennedy drove Mary Jo Kopechne to her death and, rather than report the accident to the police, spent the next ten hours or so sobering up, attempting to cajole his drinking buddies to vouch for his innocence in the matter, and calling his lawyer, a German girlfriend, and political cronies. The indifference was particularly galling to many involved in the case. “She didn’t drown,” the diver who retrieved Kophechne’s body from Kennedy’s Oldsmobile Delmont 88, steadfastly held. “She died of suffocation in her own air void. It took her at least three or four hours to die. I could have had her out of that car in 25 minutes after I got the call. But he didn’t call.”

Happy?

Tchocky 08-27-09 10:51 AM

You should get onto this guy, CastleBravo. He's stolen your post.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33298

August 08-27-09 10:56 AM

Hey CastleBravo. It's not very ethical to post someone elses writing like it was your own. There's a quote feature, use it.

AVGWarhawk 08-27-09 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1159969)
Hey CastleBravo. It's not very ethical to post someone elses writing like it was your own. There's a quote feature, use it.

Quoted or not, Castlbrave only proves the point the Teddy was a slouch. I even thought that when I was a kid. Now Pelosi wants a full court press for a healthcare bill with Kennedy's name on it and the guys is not even cold yet. :doh: Opportunist at it's worse. This is just another visage of what DC is like and how it operates. :down: Were is the change?

Tchocky 08-27-09 11:15 AM

Well, yeah. I mean, Ted Kennedy was always adamantly against healthcare reform.

August 08-27-09 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1159986)
Quoted or not, Castlbrave only proves the point the Teddy was a slouch. I even thought that when I was a kid. Now Pelosi wants a full court press for a healthcare bill with Kennedy's name on it and the guys is not even cold yet. :doh: Opportunist at it's worse. This is just another visage of what DC is like and how it operates. :down: Were is the change?

And the USA Patriot act wasn't? Seriously, I don't care what they want to call the bill. It's not going to help win any public support.

August 08-27-09 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1159986)
Quoted or not, Castlbrave only proves the point the Teddy was a slouch. I even thought that when I was a kid. Now Pelosi wants a full court press for a healthcare bill with Kennedy's name on it and the guys is not even cold yet. :doh: Opportunist at it's worse. This is just another visage of what DC is like and how it operates. :down: Were is the change?

And the USA Patriot act wasn't? Seriously, I don't care what they want to call the bill. It's not going to help win any public support. When it fails it can join Hillerycare and Obama care in the dustbin of history.

CastleBravo 08-27-09 11:29 AM

Many apologies for not posting correctly in my earlier passages. I have fixed it.

Does anyone think that saying it was Teddy's effort to reform healthcare really make obamacare sound less onerous or unaffordable?

SteamWake 08-27-09 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1159990)
Well, yeah. I mean, Ted Kennedy was always adamantly against healthcare reform.

Untill recently.

Ted was actually against a number of tax and spend programs I'll have to give him that.

But he was adamantly for the Barrack take over .... er... health plan.

FIREWALL 08-27-09 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1159670)
I imagine most people feel ... J.F.K. & R.F.K > R.I.P.

T.M.K. > R.I.H.

fixed:DL

AVGWarhawk 08-27-09 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1159997)
And the USA Patriot act wasn't? Seriously, I don't care what they want to call the bill. It's not going to help win any public support. When it fails it can join Hillerycare and Obama care in the dustbin of history.

True-dat:salute:

Tchocky 08-27-09 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1160085)
Untill recently.

I was joking.

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Originally Posted by Ezra Klein
"This is the cause of my life," Ted Kennedy wrote. "For four decades I have carried this cause — from the floor of the United States Senate to every part of this country. It has never been merely a question of policy; it goes to the heart of my belief in a just society."
Kennedy was talking about health care. But then, Kennedy was always talking about health care. He was talking about it when he helped pass Medicare and Medicaid in the '60s. When he tried to reach a deal with Richard Nixon in the '70s. When he made it the center of his challenge to Jimmy Carter in the '80s. When he created the Children's Health Insurance Program in the '90s. When he directed his staff to begin educating senators and stakeholders for President Obama's effort late last year.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...edys_life.html

Aramike 08-27-09 03:12 PM

So, those of you from the area (August?): who's going to be his replacement?


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