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Originally Posted by geetrue

Caption this picture of Bush and Putin meeting this morning at the Olympic's in China ... I can't tell what they are saying.

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/wo...789@U-4454.jpg

Mr Funny-shirt here tells me there's Russian tanks in Georgia! You get those tanks off US territory right now, or you are for it! I'm not kidding!

[Edited to incorporate August's fine witty caption below into one uber-caption]

Who is the guy in the funny shirt?

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Originally Posted by geetrue

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Oh come on...anyone who thinks Georgia is really responsible IMO neeeds a kick up the rear.It simply doesnt serve their interests to start a fight at the moment! Russia however, master stroke. Attack when the world's eye is on the olympics, blame the defenders, accusing them of ethnic cleansing?? come on... they only a couple of days ago reaffirmed a committment to a ceasefire.I see this as a russian land grab. its a chance for putin to show the world what his spending can do. and the Russians just "happened" to have a sh!tload of tanks hanging around on the border, and just "happened" to have all sorts of air strikes ready to go... i call foul, russia needs a big kick up the rear for this.

The Georgian prez is a Dick Cheney and Big Oil stooge.

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

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"It's all very sad and alarming," Putin said earlier in the day. "And, of course, there will be a response."

"There are lots of volunteers being gathered in the region, and it's very hard to withhold them from taking part. A real war is going on," Putin said, according to his spokesman, Dmitry Peskov.

Russian peacekeepers are in South Ossetia under a 1992 agreement by Russian, Georgian, and South Ossetian authorities to maintain what has been a fragile peace. The mixed peacekeeping force also includes Georgian and South Ossetian troops.

Saakashvili said the Russian invasion of South Ossetia was pre-planned.

"These troops that are in Georgia now -- they didn't come unexpectedly," the president told CNN. "They had been amassing at the border for the last few months. They claimed they were staging exercises there and as soon as a suitable pretext was found, they moved in."
Georgia, located on the Black Sea coast between Russia and Turkey, has been split by Russian-backed separatist movements in South Ossetia and another region, Abkhazia.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...tia/index.html

If they enter Georgia from Abkhasia or Ossetia the Georgians IMO have to be assisted by EU and US, arms and supplies is the minimum.

Opening shots this time were fried from Georgia. That does not allow them to claim a case of self-defense. The EU should stay out of this. For America it is both an ideological and a strategic thing so arguments over their position are useless anyway. But no matter Washington's desires, at no costs NATO should consider this to be NATO's playground.

Actually those shots were fired by the Russians, they are spinning the media.
Now they are bombing the Georgian capital, i wouldnt mind going there and shooting some invading bastard.

Fighting with Russia spreads to cities across Georgia

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...tia/index.html

Happy times, I've gotta ask, why are you so keen to take off to georgia to fight the russians??

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

Happy times, I've gotta ask, why are you so keen to take off to georgia to fight the russians??

They have issues and i have an issue with that.:yep:

edit. History also of course.
btw the winter war film is live again in you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7957F...x=0&playnext=1

Where's Charlie Wilson when you need him?

Oh well, hope it won't be a long drawn out war. The Caucasus and near by areas such as Iraq have seen their share of those.

Some truly funny and witty comments from this thread:

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I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie

i herd on the news that rusia has invaded but i dont see them no where wats going on

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'Tain't the Rooshans, it's the Yankees come again! Heading for Atlanta with a big box of matches!

/Git yer gun, Uncle Jed! Jed! Je-e-e-e-d!

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They just blew up the Omni in Atlanta. I hope you are not near there!

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Relax. I'm in Michigan and we heard about it on the news. Many of us are on our way in a convoy of pick-up trucks to help! Stand-by and stay where you are until we get there!

edit: We are bringin' shot-guns and hound-dogs!

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Russians are very stealthy creatures. Kind of like ninjas. They are probably hiding in your kitchen right now...give yourself up, they will be merciful.

We need more guys like these!

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We need more guys like these!

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Be careful what you wish for!;)

LOL this Thread keeps on getting better:rotfl:... Not the war tough...

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

Happy times, I've gotta ask, why are you so keen to take off to georgia to fight the russians??

Dude, any sane russian is probably ashamed of this and sees this as total agression by russia. i think it's crazy there is not more of outrage against russia and how fascist it has become. georgian president said something in the beginning of his addfes: WAKE UP. Indeed people, wake up at what is happening. This isn't Solzhenytsyn Russia you see, this is something entirely different, a KGB monster state with lots of money, with puppet predisident and a foreign policy that is agressive to everyone. Friends of Russia (real friends) are by now are Belarus, Iran and Venezuela and Cuba. You get the pattern?

all jokes about GA aside, I think you guys really should take this more seriously. First it's Georgia, then it's Baltic states where I live, then it's Poland and so goes on the history circle.

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

Sources here say different. First shots fired at night when Georgian troops started to attack the local capital, killing Russian troops as well who obviously were caught by surprise by the surprise attack. That is how the story has been told over here, during yesterday. That is possibly also the reason why casualties amongst civilians are said to be so high: they did not see it coming, were not prepared and not hidden, but simply sleeping.

For this current outbreak of violence, you have to blame Georgia indeed. This does not mean Russia played it nice and fair in the 15 years before. Their passport coup was clever, but of obvious opportunism, and some say in violation of international laws. But I can't judge the latter.

Skybird, I agree that they caught the civilians by surprise but I disagree that Georgia is to blame for all of this. If you look at the run up, I think its Russia's doing. military "exercises" all across the boarder? separatist forces taking pot shots at Georgia hoping for a response? Remember that there have been calls for a truce and negotiations from Georgia prior to this fighting, those calls went unanswered. Russia has been planning to take over Georgia from the beginning, not just for gaining territory but to get rid of a pro-west regime and to take control of the energy resources in the south. Why would Georgia want to pick a fight with russia now anyway? They know they cant win a war, they are trying to protect their own interests against an aggressive, expansionist super power on their doorstep. The Russian media spin is also working perfectly, making out the Georgians to be the nasty aggressive people who sparked this conflict. They even accused Georgia of "ethnic-cleansing" for **** sake, I mean come on! What kind of bull**** is that?! To think that Russia has no personal agenda to furfil in this war is very naieve!