so you have no records of the rest of the world just the atlantic area that makes your assumptions even more worse bad bad bad science

This will end the discussion...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...SM_Pirates.jpg
The problem is causality. Sure everyone agrees that the earth is getting hotter, and one can relate that to different things. It almost impossible to prove with one experiment(one earth) anything at all, but releasing black smoke into the atmosphere is probably not a good thing anyway..

well theirs something not right with the world's climate slowly over the years the north island of New Zealand is getting warmer each winter, its winter here now and im sitting here in my home no fire going wearing jeans and t shirt, we have about 3 weeks of frosts and thats it, our winters are like a cold summer day. Its rapidly becoming warmer each year and we have now what they call a rainy season we never use to have a rainy season!:o

The hole in the ozone is directly over the north island

Shiver me timbers!

We need more pirates! Yo-Ho-Ho and a bottle of rum!

Savy??

:rotfl:

I'll be back with proof that all this global warming crap is just that "CRAP"

I have to dig through the records and stuff gemme some time BRB!

I'm answering your comment about the previous high temperature around 1000, which was confined to the North Atlantic area. Not the whole world, so it doesnt really help the skeptic argument, it seems.
Obviously over time the records become more accurate and complete, thats progress. You'll notice that the various records (each line in the graph) converge as time goes on, owing to better methods of recording.

If you can find records for the Antarctic, before anyone knew it was there, please provide them. You seem to think these are "my" records. Sorry to say, I'm not out every day with a thermometer.

Any chance of answering my replies to you instead of bleating "bad bad bad" science? I've already stated, I'm not a scientist, I'm not an expert in climatology or meteorology. I'm presenting the research of others, so lay off with the bad science schtick. I've answered your posts to the best of my half-assed ability, are you going to give anything except single-sentence replies? Go on, read over the thread.

August - I apologise. The link I posted was to the 1000-year analysis, the 2000-year (the original posted graph) is linked on that page. Any response?

I do believe the earth is in a warming trend atm but nothing i've seen so far proves one way or the other that man is either the cause of it or that it won't reverse itself at any time in the future.

The way I see it 2000 years is the blink of an eye in geological terms and the accuracy of reconstructing past temperatures drops considerably the further back you go so what weight this graph, or any argument pro or con for that matter, should carry must be taken in that light.

Nancy Pelosi is asking for you responses at Yahoo Answers.

Play nice. :cool:

Only mars ?

I read once that global warming happens on all planets in our solar system.

This might be interesting.

Global Warming - Doomsday Called Off:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr5O1HsTVgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD6VBLlWmCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZS2eIRkcR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIbTJ6mhCqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2XALmrq3ro

I posted a link earlier on the thread that deals with the Martian warming

Here's an interesting article with a new perspective about why global warming through human causes is not likely to go as far as predited:

http://www.energybulletin.net/newswire.php?id=29845

The reason is very different than the ones used until now, but certainly even more apolcalyptical. Enjoy the debate!

[Precipitously jumps aside before the cross-fire starts:D ]

Nah, Oil for ever :)

http://www.vialls.com/wecontrolamerica/peakoil.html

EDIT: I'm more worried about the disapearance of bees :yep:

I live in NYC right now and I can tell you that Hell's Kitchen IS, in fact, very "chic."

Edit: I just realized that was 4 pages ago... w/e