There's still plenty for me to achieve in SHIII, especially with GWX now that I think it'll be a good while before I am sailing the Pacific.

A couple of things about SHIV, though. First, how will these extra mission be implemented? I mean, how hard will it be to photo a port? If it's a case of 'receive message, alter course, click button on arrival' then I'm not sure it would add too much content. If the place is crawling with DD, then that's different! Also, one of the attractions of the Atlantic is just how damned hard it is to survive. You feel after a while that simple survival is an achievement. How hard did the US subs in the PTO get it? Did the Japanese use convoy methods and such like?

Hi,

I'm glad to see another step in the subsim games, so i will play SH4. I'm a sim lover, and there is not a lot, so when there is one, i get it.

Me too have played SS2 on Atari ST, and i enjoyed it a lot !! Glad to see PTO again.


But : SH3 with GWX will stay on my HDD for a long long time !! GWX team have made a tremendous work on it. A good game became a so great Subsim. So, i hope this team or another will make SH4 a great sim too ..

I have no interest in the Pacific theater,

Just give me the brits above my head to keep me company :rock:

Well voltage we can only wait and see mate would be good to see the gwx team working on it but for now im happy there still focusing on 3:up:

I basically bought my computer to play SH3! Played SH2 for a year and a half and loved it. When 3 was released I held off until I had a pc worth playing it on. Then I had kids. Now I have the new pc, the kids are sleeping through the night and I eventually have the chance to play it. I think i've got a lot of patrols to do in this game before i join the USN. And from reading some of the posts here I think I share a disinterest in the Pacific Theatre. Dont know what it is about WW2 in Europe that grips me so much.

Like a few peeps have said and i think i agree if your from europe the european war is more intresting to us something that we all have a close relationship with.
The Guys and gals from the States the pacific war with the japs was, what does it for them me im like both areas of conflict many varied and intresting sub stories from both theatres of conflict.:up:

I wonder how many people who think the Pacific was boring, or holds no interest to them, have ever bothered to research it at all? :hmm:

I never said it was boring it's just as intresting as the U boat war ive read many very intresying stories about the War in the pacific some real heroes out there one that springs to mind is Mush Morton skipper of the Wahoo which is a fantastuc read man had a real set of balls:up:

Dont get me wrong. I dont think its boring. Got a library at home with hundreds of books from nearly every theatre and read most of them. One of the first military history books i ever read was an autobiography of a japanese fighter pilot (cant remember the title. It disintegrated a long time ago!), got books on the fall of singapore, the burma campaign, battle of the java sea, leyte gulf etc. What i'm saying is they dont hold my interest like the european campaign. Like Ducimus pointed out earlier I'm sure the underdog status counts for a lot. As a kid i was all RAF and battle of Britain. In my more mature years i was more interested in the allied bombing campaigns and U-boats. I always back the loser. Thats why i dont gamble:D

You never know matey....you just never know ;) :arrgh!:

Me i'm just a WW2 nut the Submarine side of it apeals to me from all fronts wether it was the Kriegsmarine or the IJN or RN or the USN they all had there own high and lwo points and some very intresting stories.:up:

I will second post from Foghladh_mhara...
I have read tons of books on the Pacific, I know which important role the US subs played in cripping Japanese merchant fleet. Somehow the games I played most in the PTO have been either flight sims (1942 Microprose, Pacific Fighters) or strategic games based on carrier ops (Carriers at War, Uncommon Valour) I even remember before computer gaming having spent lot of time on board games like the excellent Flattop from Avalon Hill or solo Tokyo Express from Victory Games.
But for some reason there is something special about the Atlantic U-boat war, trying to survive as long as possible against increasingly powerful foes I suppose.

Every one loves the underdog even if he is the bad guy depending on whos view point you look at it from confusing or what.:hmm:

Same exact story on this end. Cut my teeth on Silent Service on Nintendo, and my first book was the lovely book on the Batfish that I picked up at the local library as really a little kid, 8 or 9.

Over the last few months, all I have been doing is reading about the Pacific War, and the fleet boats, it's like meeting an old friend. I like SH3, but SH4 will be a sim that I will be playing for years and years, I hope.

To a point, this is true. However, my first real interest in WWII was air combat in the ETO. Having said that, I am really ready to play a subsim and not be a Nazi..... sometimes in SH3 I find myself sinking Allied tonnage and calling them 'the bad guys,' before I catch myself, and realize that, I am the bad guys.

You see a guy like Erich Topp, and think, what a naval hero! Certainly, he was; and it seems likely from my reading, that the Kriegsmarine was the least political of the German armed forces, but still, in the back of my head, playing a German submariner always leaves me with a bit of a funky taste. Much of this is dissapated by not playing in German, but still, there it is.

I don't mean any of this harshly, but it will be nice fighting for a country that has a republican form of government, against one that ain't.....

Just my personal feelings....