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bookworm_020 01-17-07 11:33 PM

Could we have a list of contenders who have put there hand up and said they would be running? You could have a list on possible names who may run, but I just want to know is going to, not just second guesses:know:

Schatten 01-17-07 11:58 PM

Announced really officially official candidates...

Democrat: Joe Biden, Christopher Dodd, John Edwards, Dennis Cucinich and Tom Vilsack

Republican: Duncan Hunter

Independent: Bob Hargis


That's it for the officially official ones. The ones that have done the exploratory committee dealies are: Barak Obama (D), Sam Brownback (R), James Gilmore (R), Rudy Guillianni (R), John MacCain (R), Ron Paul (R), Mitt Romney (R), and Tommy Thompson (R).

Possibles:

Wesley Clark: Said he isn't, but then said he might. (D)
Hillary Clinton: She's running, don't let her kid ya. (D)
Newt Gingrich: Said he's considering it and has visited all the early Primary states. (R)
Al Gore: Said he isn't but hasn't ruled it out completely. (D)
John Kerry: Hasn't done anything official but has been running around early Primary state. (D)
George Pataki: Another not saying one way or the other guy but who's been running around early Primary states. (R)
Bill Richardson: Is on the fence. (D)

There, that isn't all that confusing now is it? :rotfl:

baggygreen 01-18-07 12:18 AM

condy isnt interested? i remember an article in a paper a few years ago about the possibility of hilary vs condy...

Schatten 01-18-07 12:56 AM

Condi has said repeatedly that she didn't want to run, but if she were asked to then she'd think about it.

She actually said she really wants to be the NFL Commissioner someday, she loves football. :up:

EDIT: Oh and yeah Dick Morris wrote a whole book called "Condi vs. Hillary" but I haven't read it yet, it's always out of the local library.

U-533 01-18-07 05:29 AM

I think we need a new type of Leadership.

The kind that will do what is needed to protect this country with out pandering to Bleeding Heart Liberals.

The kind that will not worry over who's feelings get hurt and what is Politically Correct.

We don't need a poll watcher we need a leader.

I can not even begin to say who that may be.:sunny:

bradclark1 01-18-07 09:19 AM

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I think the only potential canidate that truly understands terrorism at all on a viceral level is Guilianni, but he has some electability issues even among Republicans.
He was on the recieving end of an terrorist attack. All that does is give him cult status.

Enigma 01-18-07 10:46 AM

I agree. Guliani simply got good PR during the days after 9/11. I have nothing against the guy, but he is chasing what I like to call the "warm n' fuzzy" vote.

Sad to say, I think its still a stretch that a woman gets elected here, let alone a black woman. I dont see that happening. And thats a shame because I think both Condi and Hilary are as qualified or more so, as the majority of men with hats in the ring.....Condi especially so, although she and I agree on little.

I'd really like to see a 2 party ticket go into office. I think that would be good for the country. We obviously need to reign in the far right, and become a more centrist government....

Schatten 01-18-07 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
He was on the recieving end of an terrorist attack. All that does is give him cult status.

He was in personal danger during the attack, he dealt with everything that day brought to NYC, and had to deal with the direct aftermath and cleanup for months. He saw 9/11's effects on a daily basis for a long time, so unlike a few of these candidates it's not something that he's likely to soon forget.

Which means out of all the candidates he's the one that has a bit of a clue what the most important and pressing issue for any President to deal with for the forseable future is. And it isn't stem cell research, health care or funding for wildlife preserves, it's making sure that never happens again.

I'm not saying he's my choice yet, but saying just because he got just got attacked all it did was give him a cult status is really silly in my opinion. It wasn't just a terrorist attack, it was the terrorist attack. At least it was the defining one so far, if we get someone in the Oval Office that doesn't treat what happened on 9/11 with the gravity it deserves then you can bet it'll happen again and possibly could be surpassed.

Tchocky 01-20-07 01:46 PM

Hillary has formed an exploratory committee, much earlier than expected.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6282389.stm

bradclark1 01-20-07 02:00 PM

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He was in personal danger during the attack,
He was in as much danger as any other NYC resident.

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I'm not saying he's my choice yet, but saying just because he got just got attacked all it did was give him a cult status is really silly in my opinion. It wasn't just a terrorist attack, it was the terrorist attack. At least it was the defining one so far
You just proved my point.

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Which means out of all the candidates he's the one that has a bit of a clue what the most important and pressing issue for any President to deal with for the forseable future is. And it isn't stem cell research, health care or funding for wildlife preserves, it's making sure that never happens again.
I don't think any president is going to forget 9/11.

What Guliani did was what any mayor would have to do. That isn't a put down and it doesn't make him a rock star.
Besides being the NYC mayor during 9/11 the man has done nothing to single him out from the rest of the crowd IMO.

The Avon Lady 01-20-07 02:06 PM

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Fair enough, but it doesn't mean he is Muslim, why did you think so?

His grandfather is Muslim and his name appears to come from an Arabic word (Link-http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...k_hussein.html).

I don't think he has a chance of winning. I'd like to see Colin Powell, but he's said that he won't run. Just as long as Hillary Clinton doesn't win...

There are even a few right ring blogs who have even been highly critical of the Debbie Schlussel fact challenged ramble:
http://baldilocks.typepad.com/baldil...ing_to_th.html
http://www.thepoliticalpitbull.com/2...sein_obama.php

Debbie Schlussel responds.

Tchocky 02-05-07 06:12 PM

And Giuliani's in

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6333437.stm

ASWnut101 02-05-07 07:49 PM

According to ABC news, he has got the highest approval rating so far, even more than obama and klinton.

baggygreen 02-13-07 12:24 AM

For you americans' sakes, i hope that you vote in giuliani. From what i've read, he actually did quite a good job in nyc, terrorism aside.

Obama seems a little too hot-tempered and unable to listen to criticism to be the leader of the free world - an important quality is the ability to listen and accept constructive criticism. this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105609 shows he seems to be a little quick to snap back in a childish manner..

Bort 02-13-07 12:57 AM

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Obama seems a little too hot-tempered and unable to listen to criticism to be the leader of the free world - an important quality is the ability to listen and accept constructive criticism. this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105609 shows he seems to be a little quick to snap back in a childish manner..
Really? Hot tempered? Unable to listen to critisism?
Obama has been one of my states two senators for the past few years, and I followed his career as a state legislator long before he came to national prominece and I never saw these supposed traits in evidence. Quite to the contrary in fact. If responding to an outrageous statement by a foriegn head of government that ought not to be commenting on US politics at all is childish, what would you have done. Agreed wholeheartedly with his assertion? Gimme a break!:roll:


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