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Jimbuna 05-15-19 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2609309)
I couldnt agree more it is in the top three worst TV programmes ever to be put on our tellies along with big brother and the x factor...

The decision has been taken to axe the show for good.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48279613

Jimbuna 05-15-19 06:22 AM

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British troops and veterans will be given stronger legal protections against prosecution, Defence Secretary Penny Mordaunt will announce.

The new law would protect them from investigation over actions on the battlefield abroad after 10 years, except in "exceptional circumstances".

Ms Mordaunt said it would prevent "repeated or unfair investigations".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48276804
Not before time either, it's just a pity it has a ten year clause in it and won't be retrospective.

BossMark 05-15-19 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2609430)
The decision has been taken to axe the show for good.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48279613

Good :yep:

Jimbuna 05-15-19 06:50 AM

They have said they are looking forward to working on other projects in the future with Jeremy Kyle so they are certainly not attributing any blame on him for the unfortunate circumstances that occurred.

Catfish 05-15-19 07:24 AM

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British troops and veterans will be given stronger legal protections against prosecution, Defence Secretary Penny Mordaunt will announce.

The new law would protect them from investigation over actions on the battlefield abroad after 10 years, except in "exceptional circumstances".

Ms Mordaunt said it would prevent "repeated or unfair investigations".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48276804
Not before time either, it's just a pity it has a ten year clause in it and won't be retrospective.
Have there been so much wrong accusations that this seems to have a priority?

"She is also expected to repeat the government's commitment to take up a right to suspend parts of the European Convention on Human Rights before the UK embarks on military operations.
The Ministry of Defence said the suspension, known as "derogation", would protect British troops from the kind of "persistent" legal claims that followed operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

This sounds as if british soldiers are or will be above the law? :hmmm:

Jimbuna 05-15-19 07:36 AM

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This sounds as if british soldiers are or will be above the law?
No, not at all, ten years is a fair enough length of time and in 'exceptional circumstances', such as where compelling new evidence had emerged, the protections could be set aside.

STEED 05-16-19 05:20 AM

Woohoo the Tory backbenches plan to get rid of May within a month according to a SKY News report. I say...:O::O::O::O::O::O::O::O:



What a load of rubbish, they tried it by vote they tried it by how bad they were in the polls and election results and still May remains in charge. What a bunch of ding dongs they are. :doh:

Jimbuna 05-16-19 05:55 AM

She will not be leaving before a June attempt to get her deal through but this is old news really.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48290760

BossMark 05-16-19 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2609616)
She will not be leaving before a June attempt to get her deal through but this is old news really.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48290760

The most frighting thing...whoever takes her place :dead:

Jimbuna 05-16-19 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2609634)
The most frighting thing...whoever takes her place :dead:

Very true but either which way both major parties are now split, possibly irreversibly.

Catfish 05-17-19 02:17 AM

Boris Johnson confirms bid for Tory leadership
"Of course I'm going to go for it"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48299424

I'd say we have no better shows at the local zoo :yep:

Jimbuna 05-17-19 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2609759)
Boris Johnson confirms bid for Tory leadership
"Of course I'm going to go for it"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48299424

I'd say we have no better shows at the local zoo :yep:

I'd have to agree :yep:

Bring on the EU elections and hopefully a clearer picture will emerge (ever the optimist).

Jimbuna 05-17-19 05:20 AM

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Jeremy Corbyn says talks with the government to find a compromise over Brexit "have gone as far as they can".

In a letter to the PM, the Labour leader said the six weeks of cross-party discussions could not carry on due to "the increasing weakness and instability" of the government.

Downing Street has yet to respond.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48304867
I doubt anyone will be surprised at this outcome.

Catfish 05-17-19 05:25 AM

^ ^ you think the EU elections will be any more reasonable or 'better' :hmmm:

Hope dies last .. i am certainly not content with the EU as it is but apart from only trading treaties or such – regarding freedom of movement, studies, exchange programs for students and workers.. it would be a real fallback without it, and trade pacts alone will never make up for this.

I think the fear(mongering) of an EU superstate is overblown, the nations are much too different even if they agree in some points.

Jimbuna 05-17-19 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2609775)
^ ^ you think the EU elections will be any more reasonable or 'better' :hmmm:

Hope dies last .. i am certainly not content with the EU as it is but apart from only trading treaties or such – regarding freedom of movement, studies, exchange programs for students and workers.. it would be a real fallback without it, and trade pacts alone will never make up for this.

I think the fear(mongering) of an EU superstate is overblown, the nations are much too different even if they agree in some points.

My main concern with the EU is it's interference in the sovereignty and law making decisions of individual states. Freedom of movement is of lesser concern but I must admit I'd prefer a kind of point/skills process as has been successfully used in the likes of Canada and Australia.

The biggest plus imho is the free movement of trade and goods.

STEED 05-17-19 07:17 AM

So its official, the brexit talks have failed well you had to be living on another planet not too seen that one. And now the blame game starts...BORING!



As for Boris the political thinking on that is he may steady the party but he would loose the general election.



There is only one person fit to take over and that person is Penny Mordaunt. Everyone else our burnout, flaky, who are you or a buffoon.

Catfish 05-17-19 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2609782)
My main concern with the EU is it's interference in the sovereignty and law making decisions of individual states.

"The British government has voted against EU laws 2% of the time since 1999
Official EU voting records show that the British government has voted ‘No’ to laws passed at EU level on 56 occasions, abstained 70 times, and voted ‘Yes’ 2,466 times since 1999, according to UK in a Changing Europe Fellows Sara Hagemann and Simon Hix.
In other words, UK ministers were on the “winning side” 95% of the time, abstained 3% of the time, and were on the losing side 2%."


So i take it those 2 percent must be very important. Anyone else knows what this was about?

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Freedom of movement is of lesser concern but I must admit I'd prefer a kind of point/skills process as has been successfully used in the likes of Canada and Australia.
The biggest plus imho is the free movement of trade and goods.
I have to accept that although i cannot see this being true for all younger people of the UK :hmmm:

Nordmann 05-17-19 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2609829)
I have to accept that although i cannot see this being true for all younger people of the UK :hmmm:

The EU certainly benefits certain people (the rich get richer as it were), but does it benefit everyone? No, I don't think so, at least not if you're an ordinary working person in the UK. If you're running a business reliant on cheap EU labour, then yes, you're probably very keen to keep that relationship. But the rest of us? What does it offer us?

Free movement works very well for EU member states, and obviously for UK businesses, but what about people born in the UK? What do they get out of it, except increased competition for jobs?

That's the real problem with the whole Brexit debate, we are making long term decisions on the needs and wants of the few, rather than the whole. What best serves the ordinary citizen, not the rich business owner or politician, that's the question we should really be asking.

Catfish 05-18-19 05:19 AM

As i said the UK agreed to 98 percent of EU enablements for international trade and negotiation. You did not agree to the EUrO and the europan health care service. But it was never about "sovereignty". No the Eu has nothing to do with ... forget that im done.

Facts don't matter anymore. It's all about emotions and perception. Rupert Murdoch media twisting the truth in an unbelievable way, and what really hurts is to see how much believe that. It would be laughable if not so many people obviously believe it. Well the young don't, but they will have to live through what some old rich twats planned for them.
Do you believe your own government will fund projects in farming, fisheries and help for the UK in any comparable way the EU does now? Anyone remember Thatcher with the planned "Decline of Liverpool"? So a good brit never leaves England, well i see.

It is the rich how you call them who want brexit, and take away rights from workers to hold up the old class system that is the real english problem still exporting it to Scotland and Ireland. If you have not noticed that by now no one can help you.
And i don't bother anymore after 3 years seeing what is going on in your government. It is your funeral and if you so want why don't you get out already.

https://i.imgur.com/cgX2bCDl.jpg

Good luck!


Still a point for point debunkment of ths sh!t the worldwide despised yellow press in the UK dares to publish, along with types like Rees-Mogg, Farage and Johnson. Murdoch and Aaron Banks should be shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7X7DboLLqQ

Jimbuna 05-18-19 06:17 AM

^ Always happy to hear both sides of the issue :yep:


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