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Originally Posted by STEED
(Post 2524409)
If and I say if we leave the EU bet the door will be wide open with the EU waving a great big chocolate bar in our direction saying there is more where this came from.
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The big British folly.
Thats what we call your reaosning over here, and it has become almost proverbial by now: the assunption that Britain holds a strong ground against the EU and that the eU in the last second will blink, or just cannot wait and is eager to pave you a golden road back into the family. I think you are terribly wrong there. The anger abut your negotation team's lack of preparedness and solid information in brussels, is real. And I think Londown is extremely prone, or desperate, to read much more into German vague statements about business interests. Neither Germany nor the EU can afford to allow you gettign special deals served through the backdoor - it would be an incentive for others to follow your example. And there is not just germany, there is also France, your traditional old rival, and France currently celebrates heydays due to the cause you deliver them for throwing a party.
I expected this, and though that toughness and smartness and courage ciuld nevertheless see Britain through a rapidly employed tough Brexit, a clear cut that leaves business little time to leave the island for the contiennt while it still can. That is why I am so shocked to see the eggdance yur givernment shows up there, time and again. I wuld have exected that form many others - not from Britain. I'm kindnof shockek, really. If you would tell me this is just oike it always is over there in britian, then I woudl take it that I have had terrible illusions abut the nature of British politics. I man it often gets quoted as being an example for one of the world's most professionally organised administration of government politics and services. But maybe I hear just echoes from a distant past there...?
Britain wants to open the much wanted, the desperately wanted second phase of talks, focussing on trade after Brexit. The eU and all sttes have made it clear, that this expectation currently is completely unrealistic. That means that business will start to leave the islands for the continent already from early next year on, while they still can apply for "asylum" on the continent. British economy is heavily dependent on service businesses and banking. Well, have good fun with that exodus - it will be these branches that leave first.
A reenter int the eU after Brexit has been completed and formaised, will need all the years and preparation and negotiation that any foreign state - becasue that si what you then will be - has to run through. Do not expect a highway of golden paved priviliges, you most likely will not get them.
I expected all this hard playing by the EU, you apparently did not. I based my symoathy and support for Brexit on my wish to damage the EU, and my assunption that britain is tough and smart and courgaeous enough to prepare for going it all alone, taking the blows of the firts years that inevtibaly will come,l and then slowly foster again in the years after the difficult start. But now - a dreamdancing on eggs with broken or very thin shells, thats all i see from London's dreamteam. If this is the best your political clowns can show up with then you better cancel Brexit and stick with the EU.
Man, every couple of years I fall into an old pattern and ot a little, just a tiny little bit of faith into some politicians. And always I get immediately penaised for doing that. I realyl shoudl stick to my own rules:
never trust in and never expect anything from olticians, no matter who they are. That way I would never get dissapointed.
Poor Brits, I feel sympathy for your misery. But maybe you deserve it, like we deserve the eU. Why don't you just go and drown your politicians in river Thames, instead of letting them ruin your lives? We should do the same with ours.